The Atlantic: Nobody Knows What’s Happening Online Anymore. Why you’ve probably never heard of the most popular Netflix show in the world.::undefined
An insightful thought from a TV critic I read years ago just as streaming was taking off :
There’s no such thing as the best TV show anymore, because there’s so much that’s generally good enough to be a candidate that no one person has watched it all and spent the time to assess it properly.
More broadly, this had happened to western culture with the internet. Previously, with only three tv channels and two major papers, we were all literally on the same page.
I’d go further and say there’s a vertical dimension too in terms of complexity. Society and its various aspects such as technology are now complex enough in total they I don’t think anyone can ever say they understand what’s going on.
One of the worst catalysts of this is when channels started dropping entire seasons of shows at once online to appease le epic binge watching culture. But when everyone watches something new like that at once, there’s no time to actually appreciate anything or discuss the story or build anticipation, it just gets burned through and forgotten within 2 weeks.
It does still allow for catch-up at the end of the run though. I prefer to binge watch, but now I wait a few months for it all to be released and then watch it. Which still doesn’t allow for week to week discussion, but fits my watching patterns better.
Yea for sure.
I think that whole thing of dropping whole seasons and how it’s kinda faded somewhat is an interesting case study of this particular internet culture moment.
Where we think we want more and faster but have lost sight that that’s just a dumb dopamine mentality left unbalanced and unmitigated and that we actually prefer more traditional forms of various things.
At the same time look at novels, when one comes out it doesn’t get released one 10 pages chapter at a time…
Sometimes they do. Dickens and Tolstoy wrote and published serially. So do an awful lot of fanfic writers in the present day.
And then there was the weekly Dracula thing popular on Tumblr a few years ago where they take a non serialized novel (as far as I know) and split it up based on the dates of the correspondence within, going a level further than serialization and delivering the story “real time” as the letters and newspapers were sent/published in the story.
True. But then reading is probably a more self-limiting format than film/tv. At least for most people.
The only reason they’ve gone back to slow drip releases is to milk your engagement and subscription.
There are tons of young millionaire youtubers who I’ve never heard of. It’s pretty cool actually that there are so many niches to fill.
And plenty of poor low-subscriber channels that are actually really good and could blow up at some point.
I’ve certainly watched some people from before they were big and from memory their content was more or less just as good in the “early” days. Which all up makes for a pile of stuff!
I do, I learned everything on Facebook. AMA
What is in the vaccine Uncle Jerry?
There IS a best TV show and it’s Six Feet Under and it’s perfect and the ending makes me cri every time and I will FIGHT ANYONE WHO DISAGREES
But srsly it’s a 10/10
My wife and I just finished the finale tonight, and it was a great ending. Very little ambiguity, real closure, and an emotionally appropriate song.
But, I think it is far from “the best TV show”. It may have been “the best” for a TV drama when it came out because it was groundbreaking, but the acting and writing at times could be pretty bad (so many dropped plots with no follow-up or consequences). It also went on for far too long, which was a consequence of having to create 12 episodes per season, each the same length.
It’s worth watching, but I’d give it a 7.8/10.
That’s entirely fair. I watched it for the first time a decade (decades?) after it some out and it really struck a chord with me.
Then I began to date someone who is a funeral director and they didn’t know of its existence. I introduced them to it after having it be the first show I actually cried at and we both cried. So I have an emotional bias.
I still 10/10 it (and I’m harsh on movies and shows) because of my subjective experience.
Quick edit: I would love to know what show you would rate better. Not in an antagonistic sense, I am fully open to other opinions and I know mine is not THE CORRECT one. It’s just the show that hit me the hardest and that was before I was married to (or knew) my funeral director/mortician. Five years before.
Other edit : the worst dropped plot in the best show was The Sopranos rape plot. They just kinda… didn’t do anything with it.
Edit: I can’t believe I forgot Baskets. That show is a masterpiece.
There are a few shows I’d rate higher: Breaking Bad (although it had it’s share of ‘throw away’ episodes), Reservation Dogs, Battlestar Galactica (so many throw away episodes), The Newsroom, and Deadwood. I think Deadwood would be my highest ranking, especially for writing and acting.
Obviously I’m sure plenty of examples can be given for why Six Feet Under is better than each of the shows I’ve listed, but that’s the beauty of subjective lists!
Breaking Bad was fucking stellar but there’s a couple shows I’d put higher—definitely The Sopranos, even though it took me maaaany years to get around to watching it! I followed breaking bad as it came out and loved it but I’ve yet to find a show that is as interesting as/hits me as hard as SixFunder.
I tried to watch deadwood and BSG and just couldn’t get into them. Maybe I give Deadwood another go!
Also following because I like good recommendations. I don’t know if I have one that I would necessarily rate 10/10 as the best show ever, but the first show that honestly had me cry/feel real feelings was Scrubs. And while it’s up there, I still don’t think I’d give it 10/10 myself.
I’m pretty happy here in our corner of Lemmy. Why would I want to know what’s going everywhere on the internet all at once?
This.
Lemmy isn’t at mass growth yet. So right now - it’s nice to NOT see every stupid story about some no-name political guy say something stupid. Or NOT hear about some rage bait game pissing people off. Or NOT know about a shitty conglomerate is continuing being shitty.
To be honest the feeling isn’t like reddit of old, a lot of the people who have come here are the type finding pride in being on the outside and there’s a lot of arrogance and pride with people on here for being the ones to move here.
I think they feel superior because they’re over here and not reddit but reddit used to have brilliant long form discussions I’m just not seeing here. Granted reddit itself has way worse content now is definitely worse than lemmy, but we haven’t captured what we lost.
Honestly, I came here because fuck Spez and stayed for the Linux news.
Wait, you’re not seeing those posts? Because you just described like a third of all Lemmy posts that come across my screen.
This might explain why meta wants to join the fediverse.
A shift away from a knowable internet might feel like a return to something smaller and purer. An internet with no discernable monoculture may feel, especially to those who’ve been continuously plugged into trending topics and viral culture, like a relief. But this new era of the internet is also one that entrenches tech giants and any forthcoming emergent platforms as the sole gatekeepers when it comes to tracking the way that information travels. We already know them to be unreliable narrators and poor stewards, but on a fragmented internet, where recommendation algorithms beat out the older follower model, we rely on these corporations to give us a sense of scale.
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But I have heard of Stranger Things!
The Night Agent is the most watched Netflix show they’re talking about
Stealing this gif thanks 😁
Thanks for posting the archived version. I ran across this story recently and hit a paywall right after the article mentioned the problem with paywalls.
