After reading out some statistics from the deadly Hawaii wildfires, they played a clip from a member of the Young Americans for Freedom, a conservative youth activist organisation, who said climate was the number one issue for young people.

Asked to raise their hand if they thought mankind was to blame, not one went up. And only one candidate said climate change was real in the short discussion that followed.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said it was childish to ask for a show of hands and instead laid into Joe Biden for the president’s response to Hawaii.

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    [the following was judiciously paraphrased]

    Earnest young Republican activist: “So a lot of my classmates at college say the Republican party doesn’t care about climate change, I know that’s a lot of fake news, but could you tell them that you’re taking this issue seriously?”

    DeSantis: “This is a woke media trap! Fox news is part of the woke media!”

    [Unintelligible yelling]

    Ramaswamy: “Environmental regulations are smothering our economy like a wet blanket, which incidentally is also what I’m secretly hoping increased humidity in the global climate does to all you fucking rubes in the next 20 years while I chill out in my bunker and totally don’t get backstabbed by my body guards.”

    [More unintelligible yelling]

    Christie: “Vivek Ramaswamy is brown and has a funny last name, just like Barack Obama!”

    [Even more unintelligible yelling]

    [Unclear]: “You’re being paid off!” [Different voice, still unclear who]: “No you’re being paid off!”

    Earnest young Republican activist [internally, off camera]: “♪ Hello darkness my old friend ♪”

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      Christie said that because Vivek literally quoted Obama’s line about being a skinny kid with a funny name.

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        Who the hell in their right mind would vote for the king of the Bridgegate debacle?

        I mean Christie shouldn’t be anywhere near a GOP candidate debate.

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          To be fair, Christie’s done a great job of antagonizing the other candidates when they say or do stupid shit. I wouldn’t vote for him either, but I appreciate that he’s dragging the rest of the field down with him

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          He is shit. But he has a really quick wit and is quick to pounce on any candidate who does not have their shit together. He essentially killed Rubio’s campaign in 2016.

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        So I do still believe Christie was doing a racism there and should be called out for it (like, anybody who talks about their last name is Barack Obama now? Just taking that piece of rhetoric off the table puts non-white and second generation immigrant candidates at a big disadvantage), but I just discovered that one of the extra psychopathic Republican lawmakers apparently made this same argument last night and now I feel dirty, so I’m just gonna say fuck everyone on that debate stage, edit in a joke a Ramaswamy’s expense to make it more clear that I think he’s a piece of shit too and call it a day

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    Asked to raise their hand if they thought mankind was to blame, not one went up. And only one candidate said climate change was real in the short discussion that followed.

    For fuck’s sake, have they been outside recently? Like at all?

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      Right? “it’s the hottest its ever been” is the refrain of this summer. Pretty sure it will be the coolest summer in recent memory soon enough.
      We are fucked. We got fucked by our politicians 30 years ago, the fuckers today are fucking the Zoomer’s grandchildren. If any can afford to have kids.

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          I just meant that the carbon from ~30 years ago is what is affecting us today. Like others have said we have been theorizing that carbon can cause climate change since a bit into the industrial revolution. Not sure when we “knew” it was real though.

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      Jokes on you, I’m not literally on fire at this exact moment, which proves conclusively that climate change is a leftist plot, and that the south will rise again!

      Checkmate, Science!

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      I hear you, but I think it’s important to distinguish between climate and weather. Especially if we actually want to make a credible argument for climate action and help people understand the situation.

      The heat waves we’re seeing right now are horrible and a result of inaction over long periods of time. They will also contribute to the overall climate change discussion, but it is weather. The current weather will show up in the climate data as we move forward, but let’s make sure we use the correct terminology.

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      I have some dumbass on IG thinking there is no climate change and the only reason the data says there is is because they measure at airports where there are a lot of tarmacs. It’s such a dumb argument that I have no idea how to respond.

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        I guess they’re doing all those antarctic sea ice readings at airports, and that the water temperatures off the coast of Florida were actually taken at airports, and all of Texas must be one large airport.

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    This exchange is why they want to raise the voting age to 25.

    Hopefully, those in their youth will not forget what this Republican Party has done to address climate change. Never forget and never vote Republican.

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      That’s not how conservatives work sadly.

      Merkel ruled Germany for 16 years but 1 year after her party was out of power they started campaigns about how broken the bureaucracy is and how bad the electricity-grid is without the atomic power which they decided to quit or complain about the government making changes to what heating is allowed in houses in order to be on track with the climate targets (which is a very steep climb since they didn’t do anything)

      And people eat it up and vote for them again or go even more extreme because that kind of thing makes people lose faith in the process all together.

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        Conservatives in government: Do nothing. Conservatives in opposition: The government does nothing, vote for us!

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      Billionaire giga-donors. They don’t give a fuck about stupid voters. “Find me 11,800 votes” speakers for itself how much they care about elections and voters.

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      They are cowards and what would Ron pudding fingers do for Hawaii? Why don’t he look to Florida for damages he caused.

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    If I wanted to listen to fascists pontificate and compete on who hates their scapegoats the most, I’d move to Alabama.

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    “The Climate Change Hoax.”

    Nothing but a clown show. Guantanamo Ron still managed to have the most punchable face.

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      I don’t know who are the bigger traitors women Republicans or black Republicans 🤔