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      Why go with a server instead of streaming, these days? I’m genuinely curious.

      Edit: guys, I’m asking a question. Why the downvotes? Also, I’m not talking about PAID streaming.

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        Because what I want to watch is spread across 17 different streaming services. Of course you can buy digitally… But then there’s no guarantee they won’t take that back out of your account. Or edit it later on when they decide something is offensive like happened when I bought the office on Vudu.

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        Edit: guys, I’m asking a question. Why the downvotes? Also, I’m not talking about PAID streaming.

        How you dare to go against Jellyfin in Lemmy, not even Plex stands a chance /s

        To answer your question, you actually can use both, as I do.

        Plex for more “obscure” content and to enrich my own TV m3u playlist with DizqueTV and Stremio and Kodi with Real Debrid for everything else, if I have a legal streaming service is because it is being borrowed to me lol, I’m more than served with my means.

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        Because you can control exactly what is on your server. I do the same thing via Plex. I want to watch a movie and it got pulled from the half dozen streaming services I have access to? Fuck it, just download it and add it to my own personal server. Now I have it forever and ever until I decide I’m done watching it.

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        Genuinely answering:

        A decade ago, there was like, Netflix and Hulu. Netflix you paid $8 a month and you got stuff from Paramount, Starz!, most television networks, Disney, the various permutations of Fox. You could watch Friends, Penn & Teller’s Bullshit!, Star Trek TNG, and Mythbusters for the same $8/month in one app in one interface.

        Now, nearly every network or channel wants their own bespoke app on your device, they EACH cost more than $8 a month, and now you have to remember who makes what content. And still stuff randomly disappears. Or, if there’s a “purchase” system like on Amazon where you pay a price per movie/episode/whatever, some contract falling through could mean they get to unilaterally decide how long “forever” is.

        I ripped my DVD collection to my NAS and I use Kodi on a Raspberry Pi attached to my (non-smart) television. I don’t pay a continuous fee (or nine), I don’t scroll endlessly through shit I’m not interested in, stuff doesn’t randomly disappear, and it’s not going to decide to start playing ads even through I paid for this.

        As for torrenting? Don’t need the heat. I can buy used DVDs or blu-rays from eBay or my local pawn shop for pennies apiece and have all the content I actually want, legally and conveniently. My ISP doesn’t get mad, and everything continues to work.

        Plus my NAS does a few other things not related to media consumption, for example it’s attached to my UPS and it will send signals to several devices including the UPS and itself to shut down when it’s too low on battery. It’s kind of nice to have that kind of thing.

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        It works a hell of a lot more reliably than things like fmovies… Streamio can be a little better with real-debrid but then you’re still paying…

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        An actual answer to your real question:

        There’s basically four options when you want to watch a TV show without paying money for it. You can borrow someone’s password to a legal streaming service, you can use an illegal streaming service, you can torrent the show and watch it locally on your machine, or you can torrent the show, put it on a private server, and access it from anywhere.

        The first two options are the easiest and legally safest, but you don’t have total control over what you get. The services might not have every episode, they might have awful compression, they might take the show away while you’re watching it, etc.

        The latter two options are legally less safe, but you have more control over what you get. If you only watch the shows you download locally (either on the computer it was downloaded to or from a flash drive), there’s no reason to set up a server at all. If you want to be able to access your shows remotely, setting up a server offers the benefits of streaming legally (watch it anywhere, let your friends watch it anywhere), with the benefits of illegally downloading (you decide what’s available to watch, it’s in whatever quality you want, no one can take it away from you, etc.)

        For most people, just streaming is the best option. Most people don’t actually care about quality that much–have you ever met someone who doesn’t skip ads? Who can watch a youtube video with the mouse on screen? Who doesn’t mind the blighted notch taking away part of their phone’s screen? That’s most people. Not to say streaming is that bad for those of us who care about quality, just saying that if animeflix or watchcartoononline offer good enough quality for me, they offer good enough quality for 95% of the pirate population

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        In my case I use a Emby server and not “free” streaming options because I can choice the quality, subtitles and on which device I want to watch. Or download it on my phone for offline watching.

        All under my control without any ads.

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      my jellyfin server has all of the seasons

      Jesus, all the seasons? You must data hoard hard.

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    “A streaming service only has the second season of a show”

    The “rival” streaming service that has the first season of the show is owned by the same corporation so it can double-dip viewers on subscription fees.

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    Recently been trying to introduce my partner to Doctor Who while he’s staying in Australia. All the episodes used to be up on BritBox because it’s a British show, but they dropped it earlier this year. Now the options are:

    Binge (season 4+)

    Amazon Prime (season 5+)

    Stan (all new seasons, but also the only streaming service I don’t have access to)

    Disney+ (only 3 movie-length specials)

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    Bonus points: The service has the entire run of a show, but then they remove the whole series when you’re only 3 episodes away from the end.

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      We had that happen to us the other day, it was announced a series was available dates X to Y so we figure “Ok, it’s the last day, they’ll pull it at midnight, we’ll just binge it”…

      10pm, last episode, can’t load 😐

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    This was the case when I checked out crunchyroll years ago, there were so many shows that didn’t have season 1 in my country and well the selection was abysmal to begin with.

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        Oh yea, streaming services have never had much of a selection in my country so the high seas are the only option and Plex combined with sickchill and couchpotato are a better user experience too.

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    streaming service has a random selection of episodes from a show

    Way back when Mythbusters was on Netflix, they’d have just a random smattering of episodes and not the complete series. Suxx0red.

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    If I can’t see the whole show, I pirate it.

    If I can’t download the show and host it on my jellyfin server, I pirate it.

    If I can get the whole show for a reasonable price and download it in 1080p, I buy it.

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    I love how everyone here are just saying to pirate. I wonder if someone made one streaming platform to rule them all. I’m talking no ads, no missing parts, no extra fees, no shitty quality streams. Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?

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      When there was basically only Netflix I paid for it and almost completely stopped pirating. Now I have acces to Netflix, Disney, prime(Disney and prime by password sharing) and I again started pirating years ago.

      I for sure pay €20 for one service with almost everything, no ads and decent quality. Then I again stop pirating

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      Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?

      It’s not an either or thing. No matter what, some people will pirate. No matter what, some people will choose to pay. Those aren’t even mutually exclusive, some people will pirate and pay.

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        You are right, not even arguing this. But I ment like the ratio then. Caz I feel like it’d make more people pay, but you can’t unteach the masses of how easy it is to pirate, so the damage might be permanent.

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      i would gladly pay for that. the only reason i’m not streaming is the inconsistency of it all. and to watch all of the stuff i want to watch, that would be 60€+ a month. plus the godawful UI. but i’m not entitled to complain, i use jellyfin.

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      There will always be pirates, for some the act itself is a kind of hobby and part of their identity, but I think we can see in the reaction to some current and past, pre-inshitification, services thatt here is a legitimate point where many, if not a majority, would be happy to pay for a worthy service to support the media they enjoy and avoid some of the acquisition and self hosting hassle of pirating.

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    Netflix in latam has something like 3/4 of a season of jojo’s (I think it’s stardust crusaders)