• lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Nooooo anything but more environmentally friendly vehicles that people can actually afford. Won’t somebody think of the profits?

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      1 year ago

      not sure about environmentally friendly,friendlier sure, but a well developed public transit system and biking infrastructure beats any kind of car based infrastructure

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        1 year ago

        We need the incrementally more eco-friendly options as well. Most pickup truck driving office workers won’t suddenly get a bike and change their ways, so a more eco friendly personal vehicle is probably a lot more likely to reduce emissions for that demography.

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        Complements. The reason we’re stuck in this auto-dystopia (are we auto-asphyxiating? ;-) is people wanting one size fits all infrastructure. Let’s apply this more intelligently this time - recognize that some areas are more built up than others and different solutions scale differently . In general that can be a good thing, but we need interconnected services for everyone. That does include cars in many areas, although I agree a worthwhile goal for cities/town centers is that people not need a car

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          The reason we’re stuck in this auto-dystopia (are we auto-asphyxiating? ;-) is people wanting one size fits all infrastructure.

          The reason the US is a car dependent dystopia is because they let the auto industry dismantle a shitton of public infrastructure.

          Just because you build public transport infrastructure doesn’t mean you can’t have your car, look at switzerland, netherlands, they have good public transport/bike infrastructure and still have cars.

          Having great public transportation actually makes it better for people who only want to use cars, because it takes off a lot of people from the road who now have alternative options.

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          1 year ago

          Holy based someone on Lemmy not blindly advocating for public transport literally everywhere.

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              It’s really efficient in densely populated areas but inefficient in sparsely populated areas.

              While it should be everywhere eventually , the focus should definitely be on cities first.

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                  The last miles are a huge problem in villages. Train stops and you then walk 5 miles every time? The bus needs to ride every 30 minutes to bring along 5 people that’s super expensive.

                  Also everyone there already has a car anyways since it’s basically required there.

                  Cities however can use public transport far more efficiently.

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                    you do realize trains are part of the public transport and no reasonable person would think you can’t take a car to the train station?

                    what do you think I am talking about? a bus going every 30 minutes to every house in bumfuck nowhere on the off chance they get a passenger?

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            I also want to add that if public transit was more more common; it would EVENTUALLY spread to the rural areas just in a more limited fashion. Also, towns do build up as they age, it’s not like they are static.

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        Don’t forget working from home. Proven by the lockdown air quality to be the most environmentally friendly option. Remember this when you’re employer is asking you to “return to the office”.

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          Trains and trans are a more cost effective and environmentally friendly way to transport the masses. It can work to a surprisingly small populations as evidenced by all of the small disparate towns in Switzerland, Norway and Denmark that depend on them.

          Of course no solution works everywhere but cars should never be our first option.

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          I don’t actually, I live in a small town, and I see american style suburbs popping up and it’s fucking disgusting

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      Won’t somebody think of the profits?

      This article is literally about people doing this