Or maybe they will launch Win 12 with optional TPM support.

Imho making the OS(es) TPM only cannot be good for their business, many people are still on Win 10 with no intention to switch, since their motheboard does not support TPM and do not want to upgrade PC / waste PCI-E slot on TPM extension.

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    This is nothing new. Windows 10 will be 10 years old at that point. They’ve done paid extended service for several previous windows versions. I don’t like Windows or Microsoft. I run Linux or MacOS where I can but I can’t fault them for supporting an OS for 10 years.

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        The updates are free and changes affecting user interface and software compatible are minimal. Especially compared to windows versions.

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          I quite enjoy MacOS but they are way more likely to break backwards compatibility than Microsoft. I would argue that one of Microsoft’s biggest problems with Windows is that they don’t break compatibility often enough. The engineering effort they put into maintaining support for archaic software is pretty immense.

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          What? No. lol

          Apple updates constantly break whether or not an application can be updated and remain compatible. It’s literally the biggest headache we have when dealing with Apple in an enterprise environment. This version of Adobe CC only works on MacOS Big Sur but the other department is still on High Sierra and this remote site is fully on Monterey. None of their projects are cross compatible because they’re all on different versions of Adobe which aren’t compatible with their OS versions.

          User interface? Sure. Though W11 can look exactly like 10 if you want. I don’t really care about changes in aesthetic though.

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            Sounds like an Adobe/corporate IT management issue. My only experience is with MacOs on personal devices. All companies I’ve worked with have used windows and updates were avoided until absolutely necessary.

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              Lol “I have no knowledge of this but it’s definitely a management problem.”

              Thanks, but it’s not. Adobe can’t be updated past a certain point unless you update the OS. Can’t do that cause the machine is too old? Better buy a new one. The point of being “too old” is much much younger than Windows PC hardware.

              Windows is easy, just update it. Still on Windows 10? No problem. Still supported. The updates are also free lol for whatever that matters.

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                I’m not familiar with MacOS, but what’s preventing Adobe from updating? Is it updating from the App store and apple just stops delivering the updates after EOL or is it that Adobe doesn’t bother pushing updates for OS versions past their EOL?

                In any case, it sucks that apple decides that a otherwise perfectly capable computer is no longer supported just due to age (like with phones I guess…)

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                  The second one, you’ll only be able to update Adobe on your old MacOS up to a certain version and then if you want anything further you have to update the OS to achieve the new range of supported versions. Unfortunately in a corporate environment you have a lot of moving parts and you can’t just always update everything even if it’s new enough to support it. Since projects and their constituent dependencies won’t always be compatible.

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                    This seems more an Adobe issue than an Apple issue IMO. I don’t know how quickly the HW becomes “obsolete” in the eyes of Apple (for example, what’s the minimum time from buying a Mac to it not being supported?). If this is short, yeah Adobe should extend further. If it’s 5+ years, I kind of understand.

                    I’m not defending apple, I have no love for them, just to be clear.

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      Yeah, I know it’s nothing new. Just an example of what Microsoft offers to people on his situation and how Microsoft won’t suddenly backtrack on W12.