Reddit updates look after rough 6 months and ahead of reported IPO::“Edit: Obligatory ‘F— Spez’ for karma.”

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    1 year ago

    reposting one of the worst things i’ve ever heard someone say:

    “There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or AA, or never at all … But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”

    eat my ass spez

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      1 year ago

      Yay explicit exploitation of the most vulnerable in a community. Lots of this is cartoonishly evil.

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      Yeah… I don’t know if the person you’re mentioning meant productive stuff or not, but I was in a pretty niche community there. One where parents were dealing with their kids on operating tables, but not often. It was as exactly the kind of thing internet forums were made for: medical advice from doctors, venting and whatnot from strangers who’d been there. I said a lot of practical helpful things and a lot of meaningless nice platitudes at the right time.

      And I was happy to do it the same way I swapped guitar tabs as a kid.

      There’s honest money in making a community space.

      There’s no honest money in monetizing a community.

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    I dont have any direct experience with reddit any longer.

    What I can say, is that I think a verrrrrrry significant portion of comments and commenters are actually reddit run bots. My source for this is my experience in the daily thread of a certain degenerate gambling forum. There were maybe like 12-30 posters who would reply, engage, etc… in the daily and day after threads. However, there was a yyyyyuuuuugggge number of accounts that would just comment with no real further engagement. Like you would respond to them, but they wouldnt respond back.

    I truly believe that reddits internal business model is predicted on the use of reddit run bots to create synthetic engagement in certain audiences around marketing targets that a selective group of advertisers (read, not buying reddit ads) are given access to. The basics is that reddit astroturfs synthetic engagement until organic engagement takes over. I have no way of proving this and its pure speculation.

    This is why I don’t even worry about considering the user numbers on lemmy. Relying on my anectdotal experience, we’ve got about the usership/ engagement numbers from around the 2009-2011 time period, which is actually pretty amazing. Also, the overall lemmy experience is far superior, for example, just the ability to sort by a couple of different ‘hot’ options is a major improvement. I really think if the devs just keep vibing on their plan, lemmy will be more than strong enough to survive and continue for decades to come.

    The fact is that reddit stole from us our faith in a ‘good internet’. The users of reddit built reddit, not the company that owns it (they suck). The users of reddit paid for the server time and made the system work. That good faith was utterly exploited by the leadership of reddit and we should never forget how they stole from and exploited their community.

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      You’re absolutely right about most of it. My only criticism is the first paragraph as I am notorious for just commenting and not responding. Literally if you reply I won’t respond lol but I can’t imagine I’m the only one. A better way to sniff them out would be profiling them and finding things like hobby subs where they would be significantly more likely to comment vs addiction subs where they may feel some shame in interacting or engaging in their addiction.

      I’m pretty stupid so I could be talking out my ass but I figured input for data collection and such.

      • StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world
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        That’s what caught my eye too. I rarely, if ever, respond to someone who’s responded to a comment I’ve made, especially if they’re arguing or trying to correct me. And that’s if I’ve even bothered to go back and check it.

        Not that you’ll ever see my reply to your comment…

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      I am not saying you are wrong, but when I was active on Reddit I rarely checked my mail. I still have like 12k unread messages.

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      Yo you might’ve dropped this, King 👑. This post is the best way of putting into words my thoughts on the matter that I’m too smoothbrained to formulate into creation. Especially the last paragraph, the theft of “good Internet”. Fuckin A, m8

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    See, we made the holes in the d’s look like little talking bubbles. We’re not evil. We’re cuuuuuute. Money please!

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    At least they didn’t rename themselves to “Y” I guess… Though that would be mildly hilarious.

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    Fuck spez I used that reddit for years. However you can only be fucked over so much.

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        And that’s the day I completely stop using the site.

        I’ve still been using it for technical stuff, because there’s a absolute shitload of extremely valuable and informative content on a bunch of engineering- and tech-oriented subs, but a lot of the users who were involved with that seem to be switching here, and a lot of THOSE users have applied scripts to nuke all comments on their account, so it’s steadily becoming less valuable and more out of date. That said, it’s a bummer that that the knowledge base contained in those communities are largely going to seed.

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          What if we, “the users”, contributed to a decentralized platform and built that knowledge base up instead?

          This allows us to place the R word as basically an archive of the time period as it shouldn’t have much more intellectual growth.

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    1 year ago

    Has he tried publicly spouting fringe fascist conspiracy theories yet? No? Give it time…

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    As soon as copious amounts of money are involved, you see the change. I never even used the 3rd party Reddit apps, but when money made OG Reddit act like a dick towards them, I peaced out. Sorry Reddit, but I think you’ll eventually be Digg. And I have no interest in sticking around for that.

  • Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world
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    i still use reddit a lot of comunities havent left and my god the amout of bots now is insane entire threads are coppied with 1 year 6 month old acounts with zero history and what i think is ai spam from simualr acounts its a mess over there now what brainless idiot is letting this happen

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    Maybe they should have spent some of the money they used on this questionable design update on improving their app or working with third party app developers.