Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children.
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday.
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country’s population crisis.
Addressing the World Russian People’s Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.
“Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children,” Putin said.
I find it hard to imagine wanting to have kids just so your dictator has more meat to feed into his meat grinder. Perhaps the only good news is Putin hopefully doesn’t have 18 more years in him, so the kids won’t have to deal with him directly, but who knows who will sit in the throne next…
I doesn’t work either. Appeals to nationalism, religion, and even straight up paying and providing luxury benefits to people, in order to have them start having more kids just did nothing in the long run. The world is different. Your children are more likely to become independent adults when you put your resources into a smaller number of children. The cost/benefits ratio of having large families to produce stability, and increase the chances at least one child will be successful, has completely reverse from 100+ years ago.
I don’t know if or when they ended the Maternity Medal, Order of Maternal Glory, and Mother Heroine awards for having large families in Russia. I don’t know much about the programs, just what a friend who emigrated told me about them (and what wikipedia says)
You’re already projecting compassion he doesn’t have by assuming he’d wait for them to turn 18. If he thought it would work, he’d march 5 year olds in bomb vests over the border then have Elon announce that Ukraine kills children.
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That is a brilliant summation, well done!
I wonder if women will start getting medals for babies, like soviet times? Another question, if these women are raising 8 kids, and all the men are dead in a sunflower field south of Avdivika, who the hell is supposed to be working in Russia for the next generation? Just banking on enslaving Ukraine to pay for the cost of enslaving Ukraine?
That’s probably what Russia was roughly planning to do, yeah.
This whole endeavor has been top to bottom stupid
From Russia’s end: absolutely.
But also from the NATO end - why in the ever loving fuck aren’t we just giving Ukraine enough to actually restore their borders? All the counterarguments effectively stem from deeply wrongheaded and dated geopolitical strategies that Kissinger would have not only loved, but in fact specifically made efforts to personally support.
I think winning is not the goal of the Western military, the goal is to reduce the amount of military equipment in Russia to a historic low. This can’t be accomplished by winning quickly.
Currently, just like at any other time since they attacked, it’s entirely up to Russia to decide how much equipment they will lose on the war. The speed of Ukraine defense won’t impact the result.
Absolutely, and they pretty much have to commit to that plan at this point.
Before their losses started piling up the way they have been, I’d assumed his plan was to install a puppet government and “annex” useful provences into theSoviet UnionRussian federation.
But with the population losses that require women to become livestock for the sake of the country, he’s absolutely going to enslave able bodied workers in every region he’s able to hold onto.
Narayana Murthy: People should be working 70 hours/week.
Vladimir Putin: Why so few?
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He will probably do it between 2024 and 2030
Hey Putine, let me help ……
All you gotta do is excuse people from military service for being a parent. Pretty soon all military aged males will be parents and you’ll greatly reduce the number of deaths in Ukraine. Win-win
That’s actually pretty brilliant. Although it would also grind new recruits to a halt. It’s almost like he should retreat and take the L and try rebuilding
All you gotta do is excuse people from military service for being a parent. Pretty soon all military aged males will be parents and you’ll greatly reduce the number of deaths in Ukraine. Win-win
Sorta kinda exists, but you need at least 4 children below 18 years. But I don’t think this increases amount of military aged males or any doctors being parents.
Oh, so you need to start at the age of 14 max.
I mean children’s age))))
He meant that you’d have to start fathering children at 14 so that you could have 4 of them under 18 by the time you turn 18, which would be the age for military service.
Ah. I got it. So you won’t be conscripted after school. Well, there are other ways to delay it like leaving country or getting professional or higher education.
Or you can start at 17, but you will need 4 of them. MIMO approach. Or MISO. Depends how you view it.
Yeah, I know. I was joking. The ol’ Lemmy switcheroo.
I bet Putin sucks at StarCraft
Jfc calm down bro. Didn’t need to go that far.
Requires more
pylonspeons.I’m waiting in line for my food giggling like a motherfucker at this comment. 🤣
That’s one way to deal with an ageing population demographic.
Another way is to perhaps not throw every able-bodied young man into a militaristic meat grinder because you still yearn for the Soviet Union days.
He’s probably yearning for the Russian Empire instead of Soviet Union.
Russian governmental officials have some really outlandish views for an average Russian person.
They’re very religious, believe in conspiracies, actively anti-lgbt, don’t support abortions, antisemitic to name a few. None of these qualities are present in the general masses. They are in their own informational bubble.
As far as I understand it, he believes that the Russian Empire and collective Europe were always at each other’s throats, and that never changed for over 200 years. At the same time, Russia is a successor of the Russian Empire, and USSR is being omitted for some reason. That’s the simplistic explanation of it.
For you to understand how crazy that is, Russians (in general) have little to no idea of how the Empire worked and what the views those people held. USSR essentially wiped out all of that culture.
Ah, so Russian women are broodmares for the state now?
“Women will birth more”
“…so that I can send your children to be killed in my war…” Putin, probably.
Is he calling it a war now, or is it still a “special operation”?
As long as they aren’t being aborted then it’s fine, duh
Where are these women going to find suitable partners to pick from? The smart ones left or will leave, the others will be growing sunflowers.
pick
I think you’re making an assumption that this monster is not
You said rape twice
Putin seems to be in a competition with Trump for the stupidest authoritarian prize.
Javier Milei, Matteo Salvini, Boris Johnson, Geert Wilders, Jair Bolsonaro & a frightening whole lot of others have entered the chat.
Why past tense? They’re still dying.
So, basically, Putin is telling Russian women to “get fucked for Putin”?
Equal to abortion banning propaganda in the west.
If this is true, this has to be the ultimate way of not really dealing with the population crisis upon us. Not saying any government is doing a great job here as they are all beating around the bush and not addressing root causes, but this one from Putin has to be the most delusional of them all.
Let’s keep going until there’s a 1:39 male to female ratio. That’d be ideal. Not strange at all.
Let’s keep going until there’s a 1:39 male to female ratio. That’d be ideal. Not strange at all.
It’s not about the ratio, it’s about a total amount of bodies, regardless of gender, available to run/work the country, in the future generations.
They already took a big hit in World War II, and they’re taking another hit now, and most nations taking two pop hits in a row don’t recover well.
I mean, with Russia, it seems like it’s just been constant: WW1, revolution, WW2, Stalin’s reign, now this.
If anything, rather than WW2 and this being “in a row”, that time frame includes probably the biggest gap in the past century without a grievous population loss.
For as much as we (Americans) regard Russia (as a state) with an adversarial eye, as far as Russians (the actual common people) are concerned, I kinda feel for them. Seems like their entire history is dominated by difficulty, hardship, and death.
Then again maybe that impression is precisely the impression that the American education system has very carefully cultivated…
If anything, rather than WW2 and this being “in a row”, that time frame includes probably the biggest gap in the past century without a grievous population loss.
I’m speaking towards actual graphs I’ve seen before from education videos (RealLifeLore, etc.) on the subject that show specific peaks in population drops following war, and how they affect Russia directly.
I wasn’t trying to elaborate on the whole history of Russia, just that they’ve had large population drops because of death via war.
It’s like the copypasta about Russian history,
… and then it got worse.
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