• Candelestine@lemmy.world
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    Nobody should be ashamed of the history of their people. That encourages some to hide from it. Instead one should not shy away, but try to study and learn from the mistakes of their forebears, so their children might get a better world someday.

    Shame for something you yourself have not done, though? Pointless.

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      I always think about this when I hear people talk about their ancestors or criticize other people’s ancestors. They were other people. Ppl get “proud” of their ancestors siting in a fucking chair eating doritos. Go do something yourself

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        Hey, my ancestors sat in a fucking chair and ate doritos while being proud of their ancestors. That’s a tradition I intend to keep

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        How many are killed in the wars and invasions in the past of any country? Germany, Spain, GB, USA, Rusia, Israel, China…since the first Australopithecus discovered that a stick was very useful for smashing the skulls of others. It is inherent in human nature to have a tendency to destroy one’s neighbor, at the command of leaders eager for power and often for childish reasons…

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          No, San Marino is independent state since 200 years or so (Edit: actually over 700). Sure, a very minor one, but still fit the incredibly sweeping definition of the guy i was answering to. Also why i would count Rome, it’s over 300 km away from it.

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            Rome. The empire in which the citizens of San marino were apart of and engaged in authorities.

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              Roman Empire fell over 800 years before San Marino first became independent, and if you meant Rome as in the Papal States, it was since 1291.

              Beside it would be pretty weird to blame specifically San Marino for what Roman Empire did, especially that the city itself was allegedly founded in 301 CE by christians fleeing from the Diocletian persecution.

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          Undoubtedly they do have some, but the number is not comparable to for example UK. I meant that sweeping statements like above are basically useless, even for a meme. Also this particular usage in this meme definitely sound like “all lives matter”.

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    I don’t really think a country, where half of the population support a terrorist group, that recently performed one of the worst attacks on innocent people the world has seen in a long time, really has the right to claim any moral high ground.

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      The other “half” are who I care about. They’re getting killed by Israel non descriminately, while, Hamas( a group Palestinians don’t care for, who has taken control of Gaza by force)ignores their needs.

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        Also worth questioning exactly why Hamas is so ascendant compared to the much more peaceful PLO… Not saying there weren’t still problems back then but nothing, nothing like this

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    dropped one flag from the top part, here: 🇷🇺

    Edit: on the second thought, Russians are actually ashamed of their history, considering how little of it is actually taught

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    I was so disappointed at Jerry Seinfel’a stance on the whole thing though. Which makes this meme ironic