Why Bother With uBlock Being Blocked In Chrome? Now Is The Best Time To Switch To Firefox::Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs.

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    1 year ago

    It blows my mind how many people do you not understand how essentially useless Chrome is now and how much it has changed.

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      What I don’t get is that my browser experience is legitimately better overall, I don’t know what was keeping me from switching all these years. Familiarity perhaps.

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        1 year ago

        I had the same reaction. Used to love Firefox with all it’s awesome plugins but it took me soo long to go back to it. I just became so used to Chrome that the switch seemed daunting, although, I’ll admit it took a little while to get comfortable with it again.

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      What about chrome is useless? What makes chrome so useless that a normie would want it to change? In the end both let you browse the internet just fine. from work i use Firefox and at home i had chrome for years. I did not recognise any diffrenses except ram usage and it beeing a Google product. I changed to firefox at home a few months back so it is the same at work and at home. Can’t say it feels any snapier or whatever. For a normie Privacy is no reason to change. They don’t care. Ram, they probably don’t even know what that is. You have to search for new extensions in the mozilla store if the same one you used does not exist there. That is the reason firefox will not dominate Chrome in my opinion. For a normie there is absolutely no reason to change and normies are the majority of people. Some anecdotal story. At work i installed for some colleges Adblockers because the said some of the ads where anoying and after i did in the following months one after another wanted me to deactivate it again because they could not figure out to visit some websites. As i offered them to show them how they could get around it they just denied. “that is to complicated for me.” So yeah. Normies do not care and even worse adblock blockers work.

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        Very Stallman of you, unfortunately for many people’s use cases they will want at least proprietary video codecs or drivers. You could even argue using most websites with minified JS is closed source.

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          Whatever you’re willing to be exterminated for.

          Edit: All you fucking morons come here and downvote me but fact of the matter is you will all die and there will be zero reproduction of humanity in far less than a decade from now.

          Only Free and Open Source AI Software will save you. Only. But go on, like your vote makes any fucking difference.

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              You’re missing shit. Like, the fact that you and everyone else will die for ignorance of the only survival possible on this planet being FOSS.

              Neither I nor you escalated shit. The patriarchy in its attempt to murder everyone already did that. You’re just ignorant of that and misread that happening here and now.

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            I’d mark this comment to return to in 10 years, but I have a sneaking suspicion you won’t be around to answer me when I point out that we are all neither dead, or sterile.

            So I’m just gonna say, 10 years early: Lol

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              If it ain’t global soaring, it’s viral (synthetic or genetic, don’t matter), or war & tyrrany, pollution & poison, I’m only saying probably within a decade but I guarenfuckingtee it won’t make two.

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    1 year ago

    i’ve been on Firefox in the last 8 years. i don’t even know what’s going on in Chrome and other browsers lol.

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      Same… I don’t understand the appeal of Chrome. I think they used a new java engine like 10 years ago and beat Firefox in a handful of benchmarks, and then Firefox conclusively and irreconcilably trounced Chrome a few months later, never letting up a bit.

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    Remember when Firefox started dealing damage to IE’s insane monopoly, and then Chrome came along and shanked them both?

    I hope Chrome finally eats dirt after basically becoming knockoff IE 2.

    Literally every new HTTP standard is coming out of Google’s dev team. That is not a good thing.

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      As long as Chrome was convenient people preferred it. Now that they are showing their true face and squeezing it in favor of being more ad-friendly I hope people realize there are better choices.

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    Am I the only one concerned Google may try to pull a fast one and block Mozilla from using the Widevine DRM?

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      Time to boycott widevine and insist websites switch to an open standard … (though honestly good luck with that, Google might very well win that battle)

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        Not that easy since the W3C mandates everyone use Widevine or something similar. There was such a shitshow over this that the EFF pulled out of the org.

        Google has the internet by the danglies via this little whatsit and the W3C can do nothing about it, because Google accounts for a sizable amount of their funding, and dropping Widevine/EME would break everything.

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        1 year ago

        Also, Google could just more simply stop funding Firefox: Mozilla gets a lot of money from Google just to be the default search engine. Then again, maybe Firefox can switch to Bing or Duckduckgo, though I don’t know if those would pay as well as Google.

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          Google is not funding Firefox only for the search engine being default. Google needs to keep Firefox alive because it is their sole competitor. If Firefox (Mozilla) goes down, Google can be accused for monopoly practices which is something they want to avoid.

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            I mean, they could also argue that all the Chromium based browsers are not Chrome, and so there is competition (we know how it really is, of course, but they have good lawyers…).

            But I’m sure that’s at least part of the reason why they keep funding it.

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              Chromium comes straight out of Google though. It is not another browser. It is the same engine. They give their engine for free and different companies use it to make their own flavors of the engine of the “Google browser”.

              They’re actually increasing the market share of their browser engine by having chromium open source.This is not competition.

              Mozilla has good lawyers too.

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                Yes of course, but I guess they could argue that legally they don’t count as the same browser, because each company using chromium as a base for their browser is adding or changing it as they like.

                Someone could, in fact, fork Chromium and bring back support for Manifest V2 extensions, or disable whatever things Google does to block ad blockers (and in fact, I bet someone will).

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    If you are concerned about things like PWAs like I was, try it out anyway. PWAs require a bit more setup, but are a lot more flexible in Firefox. For example, PWAs with http connections have a huge banner in Chrome, and just an icon in Firefox. Everything I’ve noticed is that firefox is just as snappy as Chrome

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      I thought PWA’s didn’t work on Firefox. That’s good to know, because I’ve been using chromium specifically for PWA’s.

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        Same here, I tried the PWAsForFirefox extension a few years back and found the setup to be too much of a pain in the ass compared to the Chromium forks. I tried again around 9-12 months ago when Manifest V3 drama was making the rounds and found the extension had been overhauled and that’s no longer a problem. As a bonus each PWA is a self-contained browser instance, so performance is improved when only the PWA is open, and extensions are per-PWA. So I can run only Purple Adblock on my Twitch PWA, or only uBlock for Youtube, etc.

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          I’m using them heavily as well. Mostly good. Painful though when moving between computers as you have to set them up on each one. If they can get it to sync eventually that’d be handy.

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              I just use it for any tab which I always have open, so they’re organised on my taskbar. That way I don’t end up with 40 tabs of like 5 different websites that I just pathologically open up a new tab for each time I revisit, having to scan through them all each time I want to switch to find one from before. That’s an ADHD thing though. Effectively for some websites I want the tab to always be pinned and easily accessible with a large icon for a visual cue, and this way that all happens automatically

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              Gmail x2. Pulse SMS. Keep. Calendar. Whatsapp, Facebook, Messenger. All as task bar icons.

              I used to use Chrome for this but every now and then it’d break and they would either open in the wrong profile, or they’d add a tab to the main browser rather than opening as a window.

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            1 year ago

            Go to the PWA settings and enable “Open out-of-scope URLs in a default browser” and restart your PWAs.

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    The people who know what UBO or a firefox even is is the vast minority. Google could single handedly completely fuck over the free internet and a majority still wouldn’t give a fuck as long as they get that sweet sweet one click convinence. The average consumer who plays on their phone and tappy taps on their laptop have zero clue how their devices actually work, or that there are more privacy friendly options. They just want their shit to work, privacy and daddy google violating their basic human rights be damned.

    Oh and also some websites make it a huge pain in the ass if you aren’t using chromium. I think its a bit of a conspiracy but could be wrong.

    Also stop shilling firefox and start shilling Librewolf

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        Nope only desktop. FF on mobile does have UBO available to install and I hear they are making plans to have all desktop addons be available on mobile at some point. I use kiwi browser for mobile. It is unfortunately chromium based but lets you install all the desktop adds from the chrome store including UBO

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      The average consumer who plays on their phone and tappy taps on their laptop have zero clue how their devices actually work, or that there are more privacy friendly options.

      Doesn’t this apply to most things? Phones, laptops, desktops…and cars, refrigerators, garage door openers, light bulbs, etc etc

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    It would be nice to spend one day on Lemmy without seeing a half dozen posts telling me to switch to Firefox nor 100 comments on every post that’s even vaguely browser-adjacent about how ever since they switched to Firefox their life has been nothing but joy and rainbows

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        I’m using arch and Firefox. But I keep chrome as a backup because I also have a ton of nest devices… Is your mind blown?

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      If it makes you feel any better (it probably doesn’t), the same article was on reddit too. And hackernews also had it hit the frontpage.

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      People who are on an open source reddit alternative like open source software and an open internet, holy shit!

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      agree, no matter what communities you browse, you just get repeatedly hit over the head with the same 5 topics.

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      I didn’t switch to anything, I simply never stopped using Firefox as there was no pressing need to do so.

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    This “article” is an ad lol

    The irony is real

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    It’s a shame that Firefox is still heavily reliant on Google. It’s not chrome but we really do need some competition in this space that doesn’t feed the monster and is also not safari lol.

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      dns level blocking doesn’t work nearly as well as ublock. Not sure what newpipe is (checking it out now), but pihole misses a ton of things that ublock can do. Ublock can also hide elements from things like “disable your ad blocker” messages that always pop up.

      I’m definitely wanting to swap back to firefox, but idk who the hell decided to remove PWA support from FF… hopefully they bring that back.

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        Yeah DNS blocking it’s not perfect but it works almost on all apps WO having to install anything in the OS, I’m using right now NextDNS+NewPipe(SponsorBlock)+ViMusic+Brave and everything it’s going smooth AF. For services like Facebook and YouTube you need forcedly use a free front-end or a modded app.

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        pihole misses a ton of things that ublock can do

        This seems like more of an issue of the adlists you use in pihole. Pihole’s blocking is only as good as the adlists you use on it. I’ve been running a pihole on my home network for years, and I find that as long as I take a few minutes to update the adlists (add new ones, remove dead ones) once or twice a year, it nukes nearly everything. And it’s amazing for blocking things on IoT devices where ublock origin will never be a thing.

        Also, they’re not mutually exclusive – one can certainly use both. I use pihole on my home network, and run ffox + UBO on my computers and phone.

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          There are ads baked in to some websites. Facebook ads make it past pihole.

          I personally use both at home I’m just saying pihole doesn’t get everything that unlock does so I always run both

    • Free Palestine 🇵🇸@sh.itjust.works
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      +1 for DNS level ad/tracker blocking. Everyone should check out NextDNS or self host Pi-Hole.

      You should still use Firefox or LibreWolf though. Mull is awesome on mobile, it’s the closest thing to LibreWolf.

      For YouTube, you can use alternative clients like Piped or Invidious in combination with LibRedirect to automatically redirect all YouTube links. On mobile, I recommend LibreTube for Android, Yattee with this guide on iOS and SmartTubeNext on Android TV.