What is this AI everywhere concept actually supposed to accomplish for the end user? Maybe I’m just behind on the vision but I can’t grasp the point. I have a feeling it’s not really about what the users want but I’d love to here a genuinely good use case.
They’ve invested lots of money in AI systems and found out that people do not want to use them, so if they make them unavoidable and force people to use it.
For me the Apple environment really cemented for me that consumers actively enjoy removing their own autonomy structurally, which is a big part of why this stuff has become so normalized.
Putting a rootkit on their cds should have buried sony. Antitrust should be a thing too. The mickey mouse protection act should have socially killed Disney, which only found success by exploiting works that no longer held copyright. Etc.
Those with power have lost all accountability, and all tools, especially AI, will be used against us if we do not cooperatively figure out how to fix the increasing power imbalance.
The more power someone has, the harder the gavel should fall on them when they fuck the entire planet in whichever way.
At this point, any new consumer friendly behaviour comes only to establish territory before hoarding and exploiting when enabled to do so.
Amazon using deceptive design to influence general user behaviours should lead to billions and billions in fines until changed. Etc.
Build local movements to cooperate at larger scale and fight back. If the general public is ranting about planned obsolescence and general monopolistic behaviours, maybe something could be affected before people are forced into violent desperation. People are too busy being mad at each other for some intentionally divisive narrative or another, and the general public just can’t give a fuck about affecting the people who actually dictate the shape of society.
Also if you burn down all AI this is still true. But it’s easier to yell at technology than they system using it to further remove your autonomy.
it’s like having 10 walmarts in one town. they are selling their investors infinite growth by showing a huge uptick in users through unavoidable systems being piled on. like how retail used to sell their investors on square footage going up every year by X amount. it gooses the stock and it doesn’t matter than your losing money or destroying your business doing it, because the stocks going up RIGHT NOW is the only goal.
It’s to make it easier for the end user to do what they want to. People are best at communicating by talking and writing, so having the ability to get things done using natural language is kinda the holy grail.
Being able to summarise/edit/create documents/images/videos, automate tasks, change settings, etc by a simple conversation is an end user dream.
Showing your ignorance and short-sightedness right here. Just because you can’t see uses, despite them being literally provided to you, doesn’t mean there aren’t any. It means that you can’t think of them or understand them. That’s a “you” problem.
The fact AI has yet to do anything other than increase costs, increase the time taken to ship anything (particularly code), decrease trust and socialise the cost of data centres and electricity…
I’d say it’s an all of us problem and a fucking stupid problem to have.
The fact AI has yet to do anything other than increase costs, increase the time taken to ship anything (particularly code), decrease trust and socialise the cost of data centres and electricity…
This is just straight up lying though lol. All you’re doing is showing your ignorance and complete lack of awareness of the world around you.
You really think that the current “AI” has not done a single good thing? You think that no one in the entire world has been able to benefit in any way, at all, from using AI?
I’d say there would be a great benefit for a lot of e.g. disabled people who can’t use the traditional inputs.
Not saying that as a pro-ai/pro-win argument. Just that there actually will be good use-cases.
That’s not a use case for users. That’s a use case for a very specific sub group who likely weren’t using the OS at all. Not saying it’s not good they would be able to if that works for them, which I doubt.
That’s not a use case for users. That’s a use case for a very specific sub group who likely weren’t using the OS at all.
Ok you’re so far down the anti-AI hole that you’re just being ridiculous. No point even bothering. “Disabled people don’t use Windows” lol One of the dumbest hot takes I’ve heard in a while.
Didn’t say that was a reason to gulp it down. Just that the use cases aren’t zero.
Knew a quadriplegic that gamed with her mouth on windows. A really well working, integrated “ai” would’ve dramatically improved her life and saved her hundreds of thousands for all the equipment and tech-guys.
And yes, that’s a very limited use case, but would allow poorer disabled people to also use a computer better.
But that’s really all good reasons I can come up with. For all else noone needs the shit baked into the OS.
For all else noone needs the shit baked into the OS.
So you can’t think of a single reason why anyone that’s not disabled would want to use AI on a computer? No reason anyone would want to use ChatGPT? Generate an image? Re-write some text? Summarise some text or a video? None at all? Really?
This is what people are currently doing right? people are not writing mails anymore, this just became too time consuming.
At the same time this may be the limit of the current AI models.
Me wanting to configure something on my computer that can be Googled and the AI does this for me on verbal prompt is kind of stupid but people are stupid.
The real danger with this is total surveillance of your activity and possibly making you and your office job obsolete.
At least they are attempting this.
Me wanting to configure something on my computer that can be Googled and the AI does this for me on verbal prompt is kind of stupid
How is that stupid? Isn’t that the kind of things that everyone should want? “Hey copilot turn off HDR” is a lot easier than remembering the 4 or 5 button shortcut, or opening the settings menu and finding it, isn’t it? Why would anyone think this is stupid?
The real danger with this is total surveillance of your activity and possibly making you and your office job obsolete. At least they are attempting this.
This isn’t work related, and the enterprise versions of windows all have very strict controls over this stuff where microsoft do not ever get the data.
What is this AI everywhere concept actually supposed to accomplish for the end user? Maybe I’m just behind on the vision but I can’t grasp the point. I have a feeling it’s not really about what the users want but I’d love to here a genuinely good use case.
They’ve invested lots of money in AI systems and found out that people do not want to use them, so if they make them unavoidable and force people to use it.
Capitalism does that sometimes.
Like google plus.
For me the Apple environment really cemented for me that consumers actively enjoy removing their own autonomy structurally, which is a big part of why this stuff has become so normalized.
Putting a rootkit on their cds should have buried sony. Antitrust should be a thing too. The mickey mouse protection act should have socially killed Disney, which only found success by exploiting works that no longer held copyright. Etc.
Those with power have lost all accountability, and all tools, especially AI, will be used against us if we do not cooperatively figure out how to fix the increasing power imbalance.
The more power someone has, the harder the gavel should fall on them when they fuck the entire planet in whichever way.
At this point, any new consumer friendly behaviour comes only to establish territory before hoarding and exploiting when enabled to do so.
Amazon using deceptive design to influence general user behaviours should lead to billions and billions in fines until changed. Etc.
Build local movements to cooperate at larger scale and fight back. If the general public is ranting about planned obsolescence and general monopolistic behaviours, maybe something could be affected before people are forced into violent desperation. People are too busy being mad at each other for some intentionally divisive narrative or another, and the general public just can’t give a fuck about affecting the people who actually dictate the shape of society.
Also if you burn down all AI this is still true. But it’s easier to yell at technology than they system using it to further remove your autonomy.
it’s like having 10 walmarts in one town. they are selling their investors infinite growth by showing a huge uptick in users through unavoidable systems being piled on. like how retail used to sell their investors on square footage going up every year by X amount. it gooses the stock and it doesn’t matter than your losing money or destroying your business doing it, because the stocks going up RIGHT NOW is the only goal.
It’s to make it easier for the end user to do what they want to. People are best at communicating by talking and writing, so having the ability to get things done using natural language is kinda the holy grail.
Being able to summarise/edit/create documents/images/videos, automate tasks, change settings, etc by a simple conversation is an end user dream.
How many misunderstandings happen because people are bad at both writing and talking?
The answer is, a great deal.
Your answer is nonsense.
There is no real use case for the user. There are only use cases for the company.
Showing your ignorance and short-sightedness right here. Just because you can’t see uses, despite them being literally provided to you, doesn’t mean there aren’t any. It means that you can’t think of them or understand them. That’s a “you” problem.
The fact AI has yet to do anything other than increase costs, increase the time taken to ship anything (particularly code), decrease trust and socialise the cost of data centres and electricity…
I’d say it’s an all of us problem and a fucking stupid problem to have.
This is just straight up lying though lol. All you’re doing is showing your ignorance and complete lack of awareness of the world around you.
Demonstrate a single false claim
You really think that the current “AI” has not done a single good thing? You think that no one in the entire world has been able to benefit in any way, at all, from using AI?
I’d say there would be a great benefit for a lot of e.g. disabled people who can’t use the traditional inputs. Not saying that as a pro-ai/pro-win argument. Just that there actually will be good use-cases.
That’s not a use case for users. That’s a use case for a very specific sub group who likely weren’t using the OS at all. Not saying it’s not good they would be able to if that works for them, which I doubt.
Its still not a reason to foist it onto all of us
Ok you’re so far down the anti-AI hole that you’re just being ridiculous. No point even bothering. “Disabled people don’t use Windows” lol One of the dumbest hot takes I’ve heard in a while.
Didn’t say that was a reason to gulp it down. Just that the use cases aren’t zero.
Knew a quadriplegic that gamed with her mouth on windows. A really well working, integrated “ai” would’ve dramatically improved her life and saved her hundreds of thousands for all the equipment and tech-guys. And yes, that’s a very limited use case, but would allow poorer disabled people to also use a computer better.
But that’s really all good reasons I can come up with. For all else noone needs the shit baked into the OS.
So you can’t think of a single reason why anyone that’s not disabled would want to use AI on a computer? No reason anyone would want to use ChatGPT? Generate an image? Re-write some text? Summarise some text or a video? None at all? Really?
This is what people are currently doing right? people are not writing mails anymore, this just became too time consuming.
At the same time this may be the limit of the current AI models. Me wanting to configure something on my computer that can be Googled and the AI does this for me on verbal prompt is kind of stupid but people are stupid.
The real danger with this is total surveillance of your activity and possibly making you and your office job obsolete. At least they are attempting this.
How is that stupid? Isn’t that the kind of things that everyone should want? “Hey copilot turn off HDR” is a lot easier than remembering the 4 or 5 button shortcut, or opening the settings menu and finding it, isn’t it? Why would anyone think this is stupid?
This isn’t work related, and the enterprise versions of windows all have very strict controls over this stuff where microsoft do not ever get the data.