Tech should be made more accesible. Having the fediverse is nice and all, but if someone was to ask me “i don’t like reddit, what do you recommend?” I can’t even introduce them to how lemmy instances work without some eyebrows being raised let alone the whole concept of the fediverse.
I tell the normies “It’s like Reddit, but anyone can make a website that runs it, and all the websites talk to each other so a corporation can never control it” and the normies say that sounds awesome
it feels like the best way to introduce them to lemmy is simply giving them an instance. No explaining just: here, that one has a funny name. take it and be happy
Probably still getting eyebrows later but sh.itjust.works, it really does (pun very intended)
No but it really doesn’t. It’s just a bit more complicated to get your head around it then just registering to reddit. That raises walls. People don’t like to jump over walls. We should make it simpler in some way, or it won’t ever grow.
I’ve never understood this argument. You pick an instance you like, make an account, log in, join the comms that interest you, comment on things, make posts, etc.
This is all very normal internetty type shit that anyone who’s created an account somewhere should be able to do very easily. You don’t need to know anything about federation or how that all works. You don’t need to spin up your own self-hosted instance (but you can if you want).
Am I missing something? It’s really not rocket science here. IMHO, the “fediverse is too hard” sentiment is missing the actually difficult bit, which is getting people away from the ingrained habits formed after years of only using Facebook, Twitter, Reddit et al.
Actually if there were usecases of facebook & other centralised web blog sites that was like email services, people would get it, but now that they’re used to it it’s not “natural” to get it. Most of the time, I speak of this e-mail example (even if a lot of people just use gmail. Also sometimes communities are abandonned and nobody take them back, which is a big of a stopper here. Also, nobody gets how you can post a comment from mastodon to a peertube video and why you would do it.
But maybe at some point we’ll grow bigger and answer more nicely to all these legitimate questions from all those non-technical users that wan’t to free themselves🤞
I was working phone support a few years back when I asked this one lady what her email address was, and she seemed confused by that question. I started running out of ways to ask something so simple when finally, all exasperated, she said (and I shit you not): “but I don’t have e-mail, I have G-mail!”
So yeah, I get what you’re saying, people’s brains do be rotted these days, sometimes I just forget.
A sentence i like to use is: "imagine if you could use your twitter (or rather the fedi equivalent mastodon or something) account and can watch YT videos and even comment on there (also here the fedi software peertube)
I say that including the () parts (but they are quieter)
I am new to the fediverse and honestly it does not seem hard to me, i just searched lemmy register landend on the lemmy.ml instance and joined then i used it as if it was reddit .-.
It’s really not that hard. I gave my ex my Mastodon url and he signed up so he could follow me. He didn’t even know what Mastodon or the Fediverse is.
It only gets complicated when federation gets janky, eg on my Mastodon.social account I can see so many more posts that I can on my main instance. In fact, I sometimes can’t even see some of my own .social posts unless I login via that account on tusky, then open as my main account. Even though the instances are federated. I have the same issue here with this account and my alt feddit.uk account. I can see comments/communities on one instance that I can’t see on another.
I agree and a lot of the fediverse does a terrible job at it BUT i wish people would just understand tech a bit better.
It’s ridiculous to me how much time some people spend online / on their phone without understanding as much as what a URL is or how to change basic settings. There should really be better education around technology.
Let alone the issue that moderation remain troubling, even on the fediverse. I ended up having two different accounts because some things I follow are blocked by servers where there are other things I follow, who blocks the previous ones.
So much for openness. If the only solution is to spawn my own instance to get something workable, there’s no way this will take off with the general public.
Tech should be made more accesible. Having the fediverse is nice and all, but if someone was to ask me “i don’t like reddit, what do you recommend?” I can’t even introduce them to how lemmy instances work without some eyebrows being raised let alone the whole concept of the fediverse.
I tell the normies “It’s like Reddit, but anyone can make a website that runs it, and all the websites talk to each other so a corporation can never control it” and the normies say that sounds awesome
it feels like the best way to introduce them to lemmy is simply giving them an instance. No explaining just: here, that one has a funny name. take it and be happy
Probably still getting eyebrows later but sh.itjust.works, it really does (pun very intended)
It does just kinda work
No but it really doesn’t. It’s just a bit more complicated to get your head around it then just registering to reddit. That raises walls. People don’t like to jump over walls. We should make it simpler in some way, or it won’t ever grow.
I’ve never understood this argument. You pick an instance you like, make an account, log in, join the comms that interest you, comment on things, make posts, etc.
This is all very normal internetty type shit that anyone who’s created an account somewhere should be able to do very easily. You don’t need to know anything about federation or how that all works. You don’t need to spin up your own self-hosted instance (but you can if you want).
Am I missing something? It’s really not rocket science here. IMHO, the “fediverse is too hard” sentiment is missing the actually difficult bit, which is getting people away from the ingrained habits formed after years of only using Facebook, Twitter, Reddit et al.
Actually if there were usecases of facebook & other centralised web blog sites that was like email services, people would get it, but now that they’re used to it it’s not “natural” to get it. Most of the time, I speak of this e-mail example (even if a lot of people just use gmail. Also sometimes communities are abandonned and nobody take them back, which is a big of a stopper here. Also, nobody gets how you can post a comment from mastodon to a peertube video and why you would do it.
But maybe at some point we’ll grow bigger and answer more nicely to all these legitimate questions from all those non-technical users that wan’t to free themselves🤞
Let’s spread the hype I guess ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
I was working phone support a few years back when I asked this one lady what her email address was, and she seemed confused by that question. I started running out of ways to ask something so simple when finally, all exasperated, she said (and I shit you not): “but I don’t have e-mail, I have G-mail!”
So yeah, I get what you’re saying, people’s brains do be rotted these days, sometimes I just forget.
A sentence i like to use is: "imagine if you could use your twitter (or rather the fedi equivalent mastodon or something) account and can watch YT videos and even comment on there (also here the fedi software peertube)
I say that including the () parts (but they are quieter)
I am new to the fediverse and honestly it does not seem hard to me, i just searched lemmy register landend on the lemmy.ml instance and joined then i used it as if it was reddit .-.
It’s really not that hard. I gave my ex my Mastodon url and he signed up so he could follow me. He didn’t even know what Mastodon or the Fediverse is.
It only gets complicated when federation gets janky, eg on my Mastodon.social account I can see so many more posts that I can on my main instance. In fact, I sometimes can’t even see some of my own .social posts unless I login via that account on tusky, then open as my main account. Even though the instances are federated. I have the same issue here with this account and my alt feddit.uk account. I can see comments/communities on one instance that I can’t see on another.
I agree and a lot of the fediverse does a terrible job at it BUT i wish people would just understand tech a bit better.
It’s ridiculous to me how much time some people spend online / on their phone without understanding as much as what a URL is or how to change basic settings. There should really be better education around technology.
Let alone the issue that moderation remain troubling, even on the fediverse. I ended up having two different accounts because some things I follow are blocked by servers where there are other things I follow, who blocks the previous ones.
So much for openness. If the only solution is to spawn my own instance to get something workable, there’s no way this will take off with the general public.