Is this not the reason the second amendment exists? Regards An Australian

  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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    5 hours ago

    There’s a reason they’re trying their damndest to provoke people into a shooting match but:

    Yes.

    However, the idea was created in mind so that everyone could be armed in case this very thing happened to occur BUT did not take into consideration advancement in technology, and the ability of the federal government to restrict arms.

    Based on the photos I’ve seen, the feds are wearing plate carriers - level IV body armor, designed to stop a .30-06 round. If it’s level 3, it’s gonna stop .223 (Ar-15).

    Very few citizens have automatic weapons. You can’t own an RPG without the the right documents. Explosive manufacturing is dangerous, and difficult.

    You can’t match federal firepower with the second amendment.

    The feds are currently using coward tactics. They are kidnapping people who can’t afford decent housing, let alone smartphones. They go in fast, kidnap everyone, and get out. Even with armed people, they wouldn’t be able to respond fast enough.

    That’s why all of us Americans can quickly tell when someone is just trying to start shit when they get angry online…

    There are ways to fight back. But they require patience, communication, planning, subterfuge, and more importantly OPSEC. Otherwise the regime just slaughters everyone like they want to.

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      That’s why all of us Americans can quickly tell when someone is just trying to start shit when they get angry online…

      There are ways to fight back. But they require patience, communication, planning, subterfuge, and more importantly OPSEC. Otherwise the regime just slaughters everyone like they want to.

      Louder for the motherfuckers in the back!

      There are so many fucking people online upset about this shit that amount to not much more than hot air. Chasing the perfect to the detriment of the good. Purity tests. Arguing for blatantly impossible courses of action, or at least ones that will nevet get enough buy in from the greater population to work. Sitting on their asses getting angry while worshipping some half-cocked idea of open revolution, full overthow of the government, and dissolution of the capitalist economic framework… without ever evaluating how the fuck the world could even get to that state except “magic unspecific mass violent revolution”, “complete apocalypse scenario then rebuild”, or “if we all wish upon a star really hard, all the bad people will have simultaneous fatal anuerysms”. Not to mention how the fuck could that state ever be maintained afterwards.

      If it’s not outright impossible, it will require an astronomical amount of prep and planning. None of this is shit that just “happens” through sheer desire or will without slow supportive action to build what is neccessary.

      People getting their emotional catharsis ranting, venting, and shit stirring without taking any true action. Stirring other people up into the same state.

      Get offline, get involved locally, become an expert on the spaces and people around you. Form local connections. Accept that you aren’t an action hero, and if the US military is turned on you, as a civilian you cannot win through force. Build relevant skills for a crisis. Build relevant skills for ongoing resistance. Build skills for organizing locally and securely.

      Most importantly: Shut the absolute fuck up. Just shut the fuck up. As far as it’s within your power, don’t make yourself a target and blend in.


      I’m already not a good example, as my OPSEC on this account is abysmal. I take solace in that none of my plans or actions involve abject resistance, and are all local good type shit.

      • jack@sh.itjust.works
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        29 minutes ago

        Having a Lemmy account at all is bad OPSEC. Gotta have active accounts on state-approved social media for that.

      • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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        4 hours ago

        Abject resistance is important. Connections are important. Communication is important. Logistics are important. Leave the fighting to the fighters. We’re not fremen. We didn’t live our whole lives to become death commandos.

    • oortjunk@sh.itjust.works
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      That’s why all of us Americans can quickly tell when someone is just trying to start shit when they get angry online…

      The abysmal state of your union somewhat belies your stated ability to “tell when someone is just trying to start shit”. Someone started shit quite some time ago, friend. They continue to do so and I don’t see any evidence that the body politic is even remotely aware.

      I’m just saying the American shit detection algorithm might not be as sophisticated as you’re making it out to be.

    • Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      TLDR: “This is why we can’t stop nazis, because I’m a chicken and I’m repeating nonsense”

      We outnumber them thousands to one. How is their armor going to protect them when their tires are slashed, and they have to walk 30mi through downtown? It’s not.

      “But they can kill a hundred people with their awful nazi guns!”

      Fuck you, you chickenshit nazi propaganda spewing coward. Nothing can save nazis against their sociopathically bad planning.

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          2 hours ago

          If that commenter actually believed what he was writing, Putin would be dealing with an insurrection in St. Petersburg by now.

      • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        We outnumber them thousands to one.

        Only when we show up. Most videos of kidnappings I’ve seen it’s maybe a dozen citizens vs a dozen or slightly fewer agents. It needs to be more like 10 to 1 to properly discourage or defend their attacks without an all out assault.