Is this not the reason the second amendment exists? Regards An Australian

  • Valmond@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    As a European I wonder this too. Like they are ultimately human (ICE) so they’d think (I mean they have at least survival brain functions) twice if they can “arrest”/harass someone with a gun vs someone without one.

    Right?

    Also yeah we hear so fucking much about your sEcOnD aMeNdMeNt we probably believe some of it.

    Cheers and good luck!

    • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io
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      7 hours ago

      they’d think (I mean they have at least survival brain functions) twice

      No. Survival brain means that they think only once, and that thought is “eliminate the threat”. This is their training. You turn to face them, you are suddenly a threat. You scratch your nose and drop your hand back down to your side the holster is on, you are suddenly a threat “I thought they had a gun” / “I feared for my life” is probably the most invoked excuse for police killings in America.

        • naught101@lemmy.world
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          6 hours ago

          Othering seems like a kinda Nazi thing to do…

          If you treat them as fundamentally different, you’re not gonna spot it when the same attitudes start appearing within your in-group. Monsters are still human, we all gotta work to keep that in check.

          • Katana314@lemmy.world
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            3 hours ago

            I see a difference between othering based on actions and decisions, displaying solid viewpoints on human empathy or lack thereof, rather than othering based on race, country of origin, religion, sexuality, or other circumstances of identity beyond an individual’s control.

          • grue@lemmy.world
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            6 hours ago

            Othering seems like a kinda Nazi thing to do…

            It’s what they deserve. Tolerance is a social contract, not a “paradox.” You reject it, you’re not protected by it anymore.

            • FishFace@lemmy.world
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              4 hours ago

              No-one is asking you to tolerate Nazism. You can resist it without pretending that Nazis are inhuman.

              It’s dangerous in two ways:

              1. Nazis are inhuman, and my friend Jim is human so he can’t be a Nazi.
              2. Nazis are inhuman, you have something in common with Nazis, so you’re not human.
            • Zachariah@lemmy.world
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              5 hours ago

              No one is saying we should tolerate the behavior of these humans. Their behavior is vile. It needs to stop.

            • naught101@lemmy.world
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              5 hours ago

              I agree that it’s a contact. But Nazism is a ideology that any human can hold, and that any human can stop holding.

              (if they refuse to stop holding it, then go nuts).