• herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml
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        If you want to win elections, then you have to listen to the voters. If you push an unpopular genocial candidate like Kamala Harris on the voters, “the other guy is much worse” argument is not going to save you.

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        Ah yes, the Trump whataboutism. Liberals greatest weapon that totally didnt cost them the election… How many times do we gotta teach you guys this lesson??

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          Mmhmm, it was definitely all the people saying Trump is much worse than Kamala that made the worse guy win.

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            It cost you the election because that was your entire platform. Liberals giving voters real policies that improve their lives? No thanks we’ll take “trump bad” and blame you for not voting for us!

            Brilliant strategy guys. It will totally work next time.

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                Deflecting so you don’t have acknowledge any point that was actually made. Typical.

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                  This may come as a surprise, but the fact that you don’t have the mental capacity to think for yourself, that you not only can be so easily swayed by a vapid idiot, isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that if there was no vapid idiot barking orders at you to make you feel all special, you wouldn’t vote at all.

                  And that goes for you and every other right wing voter, because the only difference between you and everyone else at your table is the custom size of your swastika armband.

                  There is nothing you can add to the conversation, because everything coming out of your mouth is absolutely in bad faith.

                  I only took this time to let you know in case there’s a chance you don’t, but I’m sure you do, I won’t be taking any further time to describe reality to you.

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        Yes it indeed is. When Biden left office a large portion of Gaza had already been destroyed. Trump “empowered” Israel to show how bad they want to genocide the Palestinians for real and people wake up.

        Before the political powers of the U.S. help the Palestinians hell will freeze over. At best the U.S. has been a force of status quo (Apartheid and Opression). At worst they have fed the ethnical cleansing.

        The politicians are NOT our allies. The people on the streets need to put pressure on them until they are willing to enact change AGAINST their own interest because there simply is no out.

        It is long overdue to get your asses up from the screen and into the real world like these protesters do. You simply have not grasp on the situation that you think you have, maybe even talk to an activist. Just maybe.

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          Protesting isn’t being in the real world.

          Remember MAGA protests / “stop the count”? There is no requirement for protesters to engage with reality.

          The real world is actually doing things. Instead of yelling at people to pick up trash, you pick it up. Instead of yelling at people to fix Gaza, you begin the process.

          Literally the best case of protesting is that someone else gets up to do things.

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            Do you think the Jan. 6 protests did not shape america at all?

            What impact did the protest movement against the vietnam war have in you opinion?

            You should show that first sentence to some people on the left if you can find any.