• Treczoks@lemmy.world
    12·
    2 days ago

    Dang! I didn’t think of him when this Charlie Kirk thing happened. That is the perfect Nazi Germany equivalent of the current administration.

    • Samsy@lemmy.ml
      2·
      2 days ago

      There is more than just this equivalent. Sometimes I think we are caged in a repeating machine every 100 years. Enjoy the golden twenties as long as they are.

  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
    121·
    2 days ago

    The incident that got got Horst killed wasn’t political. It was actually kinda funny when you look back at it. Horst was a criminal himself and lived a fairly criminal lifestyle (he was a pimp and dealt with a lot of sex workers) and the communist who killed him was also a criminal. The chain of events that led to his murder was that his landlady didn’t like him for not paying his rent, among other things, and hired said communist to kick him out because he refused to leave despite not paying rent. He was shot and his killers were… sentenced to 6 years!

    Like wow… but they were killed by the SA after the Nazis got to power because the Nazis never had any respect for law and order.

    Edit: it was manslaughter. Not murder. That explains the lesser sentence.

    • foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev
      2·
      2 days ago

      i’d say at times of lots of violent tension between Nazis and antifascists there is always a political aspect to such events. would a criminal Kamerad have agreed to the landlady’s proposition? would i as a communist collaborate with the owning class just to bully a Nazi? maybe.

      and pointing out that someone doesn’t comply with all laws is irrelevant, both involved could have been in pigeon fancier circles, that wouldn’t nullify the political situation and their allegiances.

      Nazis never had any respect for law and order.

      ough, of course the want you to respect their order.

    • Krono@lemmy.today
      45·
      3 days ago

      “Now, people, rise up, and let the storm break loose!” - Joseph Goebbels memorializing Horst Wessel, 1932

      “…And the warrior whispers back, I am the storm. Erika is the storm. We are the storm.” - Steven Miller memorializing Charlie Kirk, 2025

      Steven Miller looks just like Goebbels too, those dead eyes scare me.

      It’s as if God is doing a (history, colorized) meme on us, but the colors are just the black, white, and red of the Nazi swastika.

  • jafra@slrpnk.net
    2·
    2 days ago

    Thank you very much for this important bit of information, especially regarding recent events and developments.

  • primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    434·
    3 days ago

    Maybe a cultural compulsion of misremembering and publically honoring the dead unconditionally isnt always good for society.

    Yeah, I’ll take my bans now.

    • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.worldOP
      21·
      3 days ago

      This is about propaganda, not culture.

      Why would anyone ban you for that? It’s not an unpopular opinion or mean.

    • Ech@lemmy.ca
      242·
      3 days ago

      Did you read it? It wasn’t a “cultural compulsion”. It was a deliberate campaign to turn the memory of him into a complete fabrication and a fascist tool.

        • Ech@lemmy.ca
          111·
          3 days ago

          People like heroes, alive or dead. Them being dead is just beneficial to those rewriting their history.

            • Ech@lemmy.ca
              61·
              3 days ago

              Useful because they can’t argue, disprove, or otherwise disrupt the use of their person as a “perfect” hero of the movement.

              • primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                14·
                2 days ago

                Okay, yeah, the culture it starts in is never culpable for any vulnerabilities it may or may not have to Nazism.

                There was nothing we could’ve done and there’s nothing we can do except pure violence. No preventative measures for next time. It could have been no other way.

  • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip
    201·
    3 days ago

    I sometimes wonder if Hitler would have had any success at all if it weren’t for Goebbels. The man practically invented propaganda.

  • Billegh@lemmy.world
    3·
    2 days ago

    They’ve already gotten to his Wikipedia page. His listed home town doesn’t actually exist…

  • foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev
    3·
    2 days ago

    before i got in touch with a relativationist here (he seems german), i jus’ wanted to drop by, remarking that the font is too small and Ali Höhler – Ehrenmann!

    • orbitz@lemmy.ca
      28·
      3 days ago

      According to Wikipedia it was because a pub owner was trying to evict him due to non-payment of his room and he wouldn’t move out. He was also a SA commander in charge of a several squads.

      Edit guess I was a bit late confirming the wiki article but I will leave it here so people can read the only source I checked.

    • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.worldOP
      12·
      3 days ago

      I’m no expert on the subject and I wasn’t able to find a clear account. Keep in mind a lot of effort went into spinning the story so the real facts might be long gone.

      I’ve read:

      -It was a dispute over unpaid rent

      -It was political between nazi’s and communists

      -Wessel’s chick used to prostitute for his killer

      Who knows, it could have been a bunch of things.

      • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        3 days ago

        Honestly, it doesn’t really matter at the end of the day. His death wasn’t meaningful to the party he held allegiance to because he was important himself, just in how they could spin it so they could accumulate power.