Can someone clarify Finland and Indonesia?
Great meme btw
Don’t as a Fin their affiliations in the 1940s also social democracy bases it’s economy on off-loading the suffering from the imperial core to the periphery. Essentially social democracy is the embodiment of modern day imperialism (just like any capitalism is tbh)
Idk about Indonesia tho
I’m aware of the export of exploitation to the imperial periphery under a social democratic economic system, but no other nordic social democrat country is there, so I don’t think so.
What has Poland to do with any genocide?
I was looking thinking that’s the Indonesian flag. Then noticed Poland next to Australia
Fascism, nationalism, xenophobia etc (trust me I was born in this shithole)
Edit: popatrz sobie na jakiekolwiek zdjęcia z marszu niepodległościowego sprzed roku nie trzeba długo szukać żeby znaleźć totenkopfy i tym podobne rzeczy
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Probably for the best lol
Ask the Polish collaborators at the operation Reinhardt camps.
Repressions on Ukrainians during 1930’s could - and should - be considered genocidal. Then there’s the rest of Kresy with forced polonisation of Belarusians and tutejszych
Yeah! And what did Australia do… Oh wait.
Oh, I know. It’s at fault for being genocided by USSR https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD because… because… since America = bad, then USSR must be good (at least that’s how I understand the “logic” here)
Or Finland
However, the Finnish air force began using it many years before the birth of Nazi Germany,
Yes, because Count Eric von Rosen introduced it to the Finns first. von Rosen was Hermann Göring’s brother-in-law.
The article you linked says
Göring had noted the swastika during his stay in Sweden and at von Rosens’ castle (forged into a metal piece at the fireplace). However, the swastika of the German Nazi party had been adopted already in 1920, two years before Göring met Adolf Hitler.
Seems like a case of multiple shitheads liking the same symbol independently?
Now why would a count van rosen, who hosts hermann göring in his castle before the nazis even have any power, be taken to the swastika?
Just one of those random coincidences I’m sure…
Knowing the template, this actually does make sense. The first three are ones where it’s super clear that you’d have to be quite stupid to fall for it. Then the fourth one, a lot of people wouldn’t immediately realise you have to be stupid to fall for them, but it’s stupid to fall for them nonetheless.
True to the meme format, the point isn’t that it isn’t stupid to fall for the first three. It clearly is. But falling for the fourth one is stupid, too.
(though I must admit, the selection of some of the examples is pretty weird)
Finland? Fuckign ukraine?
This is peak “everyobe is Bad, ukrainians are Nazis!! 1!!, russia is greatest!! 1!”
Uh, Ukraine is literally a dictatorship that doesn’t have elections and is being bombed into dirt. I wouldn’t want to live there. It actually is also pretty full of Nazis, they’re just weird Nazis who during the initial occupation of Ukraine decided the Germans were generally right, but actually Ukrainians were the closest race to the OG lilly white Aryans. I’ve seen paintings of historical Ukrainian Nazis on the wall behind Ukrainians being interviewed on PBS Newshour. Russia should abide by the internationally legal borders (like Israel) and stop murdering civilians en masse (like Israel) but the original Nazis killing ethnic Russians pretext for its invasion is no more fake than October 7th, which in no way is a defense of either evil state or their actions in retaliation.
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The meme isn’t trying to say “eveyone is bad.” It’s showing the hypocrisy of liberals when they make up and believe false bad things about AES states but simp for their country when their country actually does those same things. For example when westerns cry “China is imperialist” (reading about China’s socio-economic system would show that’s not true) but ignore/support their country actually exploiting the Global South.
Who likes any of them? Name me a state that isn’t dripping with blood. Name me a national leader who isn’t guilty.
It’s either reductionist “Blame the government, not the people!” or holist “The world is at fault” with you people, you just can’t bring yourself to call out Western exploitation of the Global South.
There are at least 3 settler-colonies in the last panel that, in the past and as we speak, actively commit genocide, ethnic cleansing, destabilization of Global South states and other crimes, which were created and continuously enabled by the remaining featured countries, 4 of which were former empires that continue their legacy through neocolonialism. The rest, whom benefit greatly from said neocolonialism or are direct perpetrators themselves, are comprador states practicing systemic violence and repression on those that so much as sympathize with Dewesternization and anti-imperialism, states that harbor a shit ton of Nazis and states that are happy to murder immigrants and asylum seekers escaping the violence perpetrated by said states.
In order of apperance:
- The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and the Creation of Israel (How We Got Here)
- The territories that were, at one time, colonized by the British Empire:
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I don’t have a good comprehensive resource on Japan or Actually Part of China, someone else please help.
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The Jakarta Method (correctly circles back to the US as the root cause)
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NATO deserves the label ‘criminal organization’ within meaning of the Nuremberg judgment.
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Combined longpost by я не из калининграда and davel respectively, detailing everything Ukraine
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I’m skipping the UN on account of it being useless… Just take my word for it… or something.
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EU countries were already listed, I don’t need to belabor the point.
EDIT: I confused Indonesia for Monaco, lmao.
Don’t have a specific link right now but the civilian death toll from the Japanese operations in Manchuria is most likely above 10 million. There are also several ethnic minorities in Japan that have been colonized by them relatively recently e.g. Okinawa, ehich is also secondarily occupied by a huge US base.
I think it’s Indonesia, not Monaco. The flags are very similar, but the Indonesian one is slightly lighter red.
oh woops, thanks for pointing that out. I guess I don’t have a great resource on Indonesia either other than The Jakarta Method, so I’ll just add that.
mine has a long history of NOT interfering in other countries’ affairs.
The state well always fall into the hands of the bourgeoisie.
yes, until we abolish capitalism for good, you can always expect the tug of war between fascism and slightly less bad neoliberalism.
My country’s leader seems chill, Maia Sandu’s her name. Peak president fr
