Prominent women including cultural figures, politicians and campaigners have signed a letter criticising rightwing attempts to link sexual violence in Britain to asylum seekers.

Signatories include the musicians Paloma Faith, Charlotte Church and Anoushka Shankar as well as Labour, Green and independent MPs including Kim Johnson, Ellie Chowns, Diane Abbott and Zarah Sultana.

"We reject the far right’s racist lies about ‘protecting’ women and girls. They are not defenders of women – they exploit violence against women to fuel hate and division,” the letter says.

The open letter, titled Women Against the Far Right, follows a surge in protests outside accommodation housing asylum seekers and far-right attempts to exploit a number of cases of alleged sexual crimes involving asylum seekers.

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    I don’t think you being reactionary to a far-right whose not present here, or the letter writers trying to preach to the far-right from a “corrective left” perspective of professionals in the top end of town works.

    It’s hot air. The far-right aren’t going to read the edicts past down from on high and see the error of their ways. It’s a totally pipe dream leftism that assumes “being a scold” does anything but push people right.

    I mean take yourself - you couldn’t even handle my original comment pointing that out. Look at all the time we’ve wasted here just because you had an “I’ve detected prejudice” error.

    This is just all the stuff the left gets wrong, that feeds into the far-right populism. We need an alternative ti being scolds.

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      I don’t think you being reactionary to a far-right whose not present here, or the letter writers trying to preach to the far-right from a “corrective left” perspective of professionals in the top end of town works.

      Good thing that none of that is happening, then.

      It’s hot air

      Back to the self-description, I see.

      The far-right aren’t going to read the edicts past down from on high and see the error of their ways

      Public figures tend to react to media pressure and other public figures taking a public stand tends to create such pressure. This is politics 101 stuff.

      It’s a totally pipe dream leftism that assumes “being a scold” does anything but push people right.

      So what do you suggest, then? Never speaking up about harmful lies and the suffering they cause? Because that’s DEFINITELY not going to convince anyone.

      I mean take yourself - you couldn’t even handle my original comment pointing that out.

      Again with the ridiculous strawmen. You were wrong and I pointed it out. The only one unable to “handle” anything seems to be yourself.

      Look at all the time we’ve wasted here just because you had an “I’ve detected prejudice” error.

      Again, not the case. It doesn’t say anything good about your point that you need to keep insisting on two or three strawmen to make it.

      This is just all the stuff the left gets wrong, that feeds into the far-right populism. We need an alternative ti being scolds

      Yeah, right. Telling them that they’re harming people forces them to double down because that’s how interpersonal communication works 🙄

      You’re invoking this comic in spite of pretending to be a leftist yourself:

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        Oh please, you’re the one claiming it’s prejudice to call out wealthy leftists for being so far removed from the situation that they don’t even know rapes are happening in these communities.

        Your defense of ivory towers of wealth, lifestyle disconnection and intellectual privilege is far more fascist aligned than anything I’ve said.

        Hence your whole “anyone who disagrees with me must be MAGA” stance here…

        …and again, it’s an discourse where studies show that negative reinforcement is far less effective than positive reinforcement. Your line of thinking on these issues actually contributes to the polarisation and prolonging of them (so is pro-rape). As was your original denying there was any issue (saying it was just prejudice).

        You just keep pushing bad answers… And I keep having to explain to you what the actual studies say (be they how negative discourse creates polarisation, or the very fact that rapes are happening).

        You need to learn political nuance. Get off tiktok or whatever’s got you so ideological boxed in.

        But yeah, I’m done with you, and your reactionary polarisations. I hate you and we’re on the “same side” - I can’t imagine you’re doing anything out there worthwhile. I just hope people like you can educate yourselves so I don’t have to. Good luck.

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          I don’t know where to even BEGIN adequately refuting that whole wall of nonsense, so I won’t waste any more time on you to do so. Have the day you deserve.