• shalafi@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        So you expect them to trash their career? This isn’t a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.

        They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.

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          8 hours ago

          Yet. Let’s see what they do when their orders do violate the constitution.

          A buck says 99.9% of them will still be okay with it.

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          21 hours ago

          That’s how authoritarianism wins every time. Do you expect people to resist? Careers, retirements, bonuses, if not them it will be someone else, this is not illegal just immoral, oh now it’s illegal but not that illegal, oh now it’s illegal but my boss would yell at me if I don’t do it, oh now I’m too deep, fast forward two years and you’re torturing last members of opposition in your newly built concentration camp and wondering not how it went so deep so fast, but when is the lunch and will you be able to torture enough people to get a good evaluation this month.

          • shalafi@lemmy.world
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            9 hours ago

            I get all that. I agree. All I’m saying is that these troops have not broken any laws, have not violated the Constitution. Trump can only deploy them in DC for 30-days, we’ll see how that plays when time’s up.

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          19 hours ago

          While you’re right, it is also the national guard so it’s a supplemental/part-time job and not the primary job for a lot of them.

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            9 hours ago

            My best friend from high school did a few years in the Army, the rest was with the Guard. Not sure how it all works, then or now, but that got him to 20-years and retirement benefits.

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      2 days ago

      That’s something trump and his people have never understood.

      They expect 100% loyalty, but treat the troops like actual shit. And this isn’t gonna be a temporary thing, he’s pulling NG from the reddest states because he expects them to be most likely to obey, but it’s just pissing them off.

      He should have spent the next two years spoiling the shit out them. Bonuses out the ass, lots of long paid optional training so they can bank money. Give them all the newest toys and gear.

      Build up that loyalty and then bring them in next 1/6 when you’re going to pull some shit.

      It’s really not that hard to figure this stuff out, the only saving grace is they’re comically inept

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        Honestly (and this is a personal opinion) with the view i have of people in general, they just need to spoil them the last 6 months before the election for them to forget all about all this and become loyal. Then as soon as the elections are done it is no longer needed till the next time.

        Why spend all that money over the entire period when just the last few minutes are enough to change people’s mind.

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        2 days ago

        If you want some fascist stormtroopers then just pulling the NG won’t get you that. But that’s what they’re trying to groom ice into.

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      2 days ago

      “I just joined for the free college and cheap health insurance but now they got me defending a facist regime”