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        They just need a paid account and they can keep appending to it.

        "Open"subtitles has like a 1k dowload/day limit, which should cover most media.

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          Hope you’re right, but there’s a lot of stuff released in a day, and you have to consider all the other languages. They’ll need a couple at least.

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    How… how could you possibly start trying to profit off of a major resource for accessibility to movies. That’s scummier than scummy. Fuck you OpenSubtitles, you’re the fucking Elon Musk and Steve Huffman of deaf people everywhere. Get absolutely fucked.

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      I swear I read a thread here (on lemmy) recently that one of these subtitle sites was embedding ads in the subtitles. Now that takes things even further than scummier in my opinion, especially since subtitles are for availability.

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        I mean I’ve been a pirate for a WHILE and you generally do see ads on opensubtitles subs. Generally it’s opensubtitles saying you can advertise with them, or credits for subtitles that stay on the screen for way too long, but this has been a thing forever now, I don’t recall a time when this wasn’t done.

        I don’t think I can take the moral high ground on it seeing as…well, I am a pirate lol. We out here doing our best to stay afloat, opensubtitles included.

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          TBH it’s just simple text files, you can open any .srt with Notepad and edit it to your liking. I always remove those dumb ads at the beginning and the end.

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          So frustrating when a subtitle ad pops up spoiling that a movie is ending.

          Something dramatic happening on screen and then “you can advertise on opensubtitles” appears on the bottom letting you know that there is 10 seconds left and spoiling any tension or drama in the scene.

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        Correct. They now embed ads directly into the subtitles. There is a python program to strip those ads out, but doesn’t work with Plex directly. It can be setup with bazarr, but that requires sonarr and or radar…

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        Oh, no harm done then, lets keep allowing every online resource to implement shitty money grabbing tactics

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            THEN ASK PEOPLE TO DONATE, how tone-deaf can you be about your own community?? What the fuck do they think Wikipedia is doing?
            I’ve found pirates & FOSS enthusiasts are FAR more likely to donate into something they use regularly and appreciate, this is a blatant slap in the face to those people.

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            This unfortunately helps sets a precedent for what the internet is going to look like in the future. Even the most basic things will be behind a paywall.
            You cant even read a fucking news article from New York Times, who made 173.91 million dollars last year

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              A lot of things are already like that. IIUC this is restrictions on the API not the subs themselves. If you’d like you can still go to the site to download specific subs. What you can’t do is use bazarr to bulk download subs. Personally I bought vip since I found the free tier API limit pretty bad and I didn’t think the price was so bad for what you get back. Feel free to disagree tho. Before I automated my setup I was just manually searching for subs for movies I wanted and that worked pretty well and will continue to do so if you’d prefer that.

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    My wife is deaf, and I take this VERY fucking personally. This is predatory to an already (unfortunately) overlooked demographic of movie lovers, I will absolutely rally against this bullshit.

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      Why do you take this personally? Just use opensubtitles.com instead of their old opensubtitles.org?

      They are only changing the old .org API, because they are moving on to their new website and REST API that they’ve been working on for a while. The new REST API is still free for 5-10 subtitle downloads a day.

      Or you can download directly on the website.

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    If you’re looking for an alternative, I’ve had luck with https://subscene.com/

    I don’t really know what the best or most popular website is because this one has never really led me astray. That said, I don’t need to use them too often, so your mileage may vary.

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      Am I the only one for whom "open"subtitles.org hasn’t worked in years? I literally cannot find the download button, like in those okboomer memes. Never used the API. Switched to subscene.com and haven’t had problems since.

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      Making a burner account isnt that hard and hardly a shittification in my books.
      Just a measure to ensure the free api access is correctly monetized which is a valid reason for a service to me.

      Would you work for free for your workplace without a compensation beyond a $5 bill and a pat on the back at times because your boss felt generous?

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        Would you work for free for your workplace without a compensation beyond a $5 bill and a pat on the back at times because your boss felt generous?

        Misleading question. These kinds of communities are volunteer-fed, so you are basically asking me if I would work for free for a charity, which is the point. Things change notoriously when the boss then decides to monetize the entire thing for themself and not for you.

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          Well yes.
          I go with the 2nd view because IMO the first option barely applies anymore with the current business course and decision.

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      Many pirates will pay for newsgroup access. People also pay for hard drive space, power for servers, hardware, etc. Pirating doesn’t mean people are never paying for anything. That said, I won’t pay for subtitles. I’ll just wait til the community figures something else out.

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    man, they’ve change so much since 2017, where they were giving VIP membership out for free as a Christmas gift. Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore as a Christmas gift to themselves lmao

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    As far as I understand they are shutting down open subtitles.org API, but the jellyfin plugin uses the .com version. The free account there is limited to 20 downloads per day via API

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      People are getting the their pitchforks out but I think they are misunderstanding. Opensubtitles.ORG is being replaced by opensubtitles.COM. They just are stopping access to the ORG website. I have already migrated to the COM website for a while. And a 20 downloads/a day limit for free users is very reasonable.

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        Do you get ads in the subtitles though?

        “Subtitles downloaded by VIP members are free from any embedded ads, offering a cleaner viewing experience.”

        I haven’t used opensubtitles much but have been considering setting up bazarr, using a source that embeds ads in subtitles would be a non starter for me.

        I would even be totally willing to pay for increased download limits but not if it means supporting putting ads in the free subtitles.

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          I use bazarr in combination with a vip membership of opensubtitles. I’ve been doing this for years since they have been adding ads in them for multiple years. Messages like “This subtitle was downloaded from” are also removed.

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      I didn’t see anything about it being free. I also didn’t pick up on whether or not it was moving behind a paywall, just that you could buy a vip subscription for 20% off

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        I think in the email they sent out they mentioned that each IP would be able to download 5 per 24 hours and “registered users” 10 per 24 hours. Paid members would be restricted to 1,000 per 24 hours.

        It’s 15 bucks a year for VIP, if I understood it correctly, then I am of the opinion there is nothing here to get mad about for “regular users”.

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          I can download ten subtitles just trying to find one good one for a single TV show episode

          Imo if they want to be so strict with downloading subtitles, they should raise the quality standards for the subtitles that are submitted.

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              Yes that doesn’t mean that opensubtitles can’t take their new found savings and use it to weed out poor quality submissions.

              Wikipedia editors do it for free and yet they still maintain a high standard of quality.

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    Wait so…… Access is now closed for kodi access on non paying members?

    Unless they use the website and manually download them?

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        Idk where you read that. In the article, if you click to read about their new REST API:

        Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.

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            Even if you don’t like or care about something, you shouldn’t spread fake information.

            The user should be correctly informed, and they can make the decision on whether to keep using it or not.