Aight criticizing NYT staff for having “ties to Israel” is coming awfully close to just saying “NYT has too many Jews”. You do know that service in the IDF is mandatory for all Israelis right? Having a lot of Jewish staff didn’t stop them from bringing down Weinstein. Leftists hate identity politics except for this one particular instance.
“Global outrage at the Netanyahu government’s actions has grown since the war began, and the suffering of children in the enclave has accelerated the disdain.”
Right, but having Israeli relatives (as a large portion of the American Jewish population does) doesn’t make you an Israeli either, and it certainly doesn’t make you a Zionist as the article above claims. How would you feel if someone labeled you an Imperialist or Fascist just because you’re American?
Most American Jews moved here before the end of WW2, after the diaspora we lived all over Europe and elsewhere for centuries. Nearly half of all Jews live in America, and have for generations now - since before the state of Israel was created
We didn’t come here from Israel, we don’t have “family back home”. I really doubt most of us have ties to Israel at all
Yeah… That’s just a small collection of anacdotal evidence, and my anacdotal evidence totally contradicts it
Look at the subreddit name. Why would you be in that subreddit? Probably because you’re invested in the religion side of our culture, which is totally optional. Or you’re into our history. These are things that make you more likely to visit Israel, a place full of historical, religious, and cultural artifacts
You seem more genuinely ignorant than anything darker, so let me take this opportunity to lay it out
Israel has a promise to all of us - we will protect our own next time someone does a genocide. Because the Holocaust wasn’t the first time we experienced ethnic cleansing… Were the ones who look like the people where we live, but are different. I like to say, “we’re always second”, because when they run out of gypsies or black people, the fascists will need a next enemy
Israel offers free trips to young adults. You fly over, see the sights, and get indoctrination against Palestinians. I tried to do this years back before I knew the details… But there’s another natural requirement. You have to be an active part of a group that focuses on Jewish heritage - I showed up a few times, applied, but I’m an American first and foremost. You need to be an active member of a Jewish identity group to even get in… And this is my heritage, not all I am. So I was filtered, like most of us are
The Palestine issue was uncomfortable for a long time…I mean, it’s was definitely uncomfortable, but it was a guaranteed safe harbor. I think this is how most of us felt… Conflicted
But then October 7th happened, and the response made it clear what this was. We had to confront what this was, and most of us are very upset about it, because our history is being on the other side of it
And now, they’re coming for the Latinos. I know how this story ends, and I don’t want to be deported to Israel. I know it sounds crazy now, but it’s not. We’re 2 years away from “putting the Jews back where they belong”
We are not Israeli. Those people are fucking crazy, don’t put me in the same breath as them. Don’t apologize for the IDF. Don’t launder what is happening.
Make the difference clear in your mind and in your words.
How would you feel if someone labeled you an Imperialist or Fascist just because you’re American?
Not great. But would they be wrong more than 50% of the time? We did “elect” Mr. President for a 2nd time after all. And barely no one doubted the legitimacy of that election for more than a week. The fact he should’ve been disqualified? Apparently a non-sequitur.
So with around 50% of the voting population being MAGA idiots and the 33% non-voters their silent enablers, I’d take being called a fascist any day. It’s well deserved.
Do you know how many mass resignations have occurred at the NYT, since the invention of the terrorist state of Israel, because of their blatant misrepresentation —and often complete cover-ups— of massacres and crimes against humanity perpetrated by it?
As a tool for manufacturing consent, the NYT is second to none
Frequency and tone matters. Like the BBC it might cover Palestine opinion partially (probably when there is back lash or denying it is hard even when governments that support Israel acknowledge it) but if it is turning a blind eye 90% of the time then it is denial:
Aight criticizing NYT staff for having “ties to Israel” is coming awfully close to just saying “NYT has too many Jews”. You do know that service in the IDF is mandatory for all Israelis right? Having a lot of Jewish staff didn’t stop them from bringing down Weinstein. Leftists hate identity politics except for this one particular instance.
Also, literally the NYT headline right now: Anger Over Starvation in Gaza Leaves Israel Increasingly Isolated
“Global outrage at the Netanyahu government’s actions has grown since the war began, and the suffering of children in the enclave has accelerated the disdain.”
Jew != Israeli. Conflating the two is antisemitic.
Right, but having Israeli relatives (as a large portion of the American Jewish population does) doesn’t make you an Israeli either, and it certainly doesn’t make you a Zionist as the article above claims. How would you feel if someone labeled you an Imperialist or Fascist just because you’re American?
Source?
Most American Jews moved here before the end of WW2, after the diaspora we lived all over Europe and elsewhere for centuries. Nearly half of all Jews live in America, and have for generations now - since before the state of Israel was created
We didn’t come here from Israel, we don’t have “family back home”. I really doubt most of us have ties to Israel at all
Couldn’t find any exact study, I guess it would depend on how you measure it, but everyone in this post says it’s very common.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/17z5q4s/is_it_common_for_jews_in_diaspora_to_have/
And yeah, very few Jewish people in America are from Israel but lots of people from the US moved there from after WW2.
Yeah… That’s just a small collection of anacdotal evidence, and my anacdotal evidence totally contradicts it
Look at the subreddit name. Why would you be in that subreddit? Probably because you’re invested in the religion side of our culture, which is totally optional. Or you’re into our history. These are things that make you more likely to visit Israel, a place full of historical, religious, and cultural artifacts
You seem more genuinely ignorant than anything darker, so let me take this opportunity to lay it out
Israel has a promise to all of us - we will protect our own next time someone does a genocide. Because the Holocaust wasn’t the first time we experienced ethnic cleansing… Were the ones who look like the people where we live, but are different. I like to say, “we’re always second”, because when they run out of gypsies or black people, the fascists will need a next enemy
Israel offers free trips to young adults. You fly over, see the sights, and get indoctrination against Palestinians. I tried to do this years back before I knew the details… But there’s another natural requirement. You have to be an active part of a group that focuses on Jewish heritage - I showed up a few times, applied, but I’m an American first and foremost. You need to be an active member of a Jewish identity group to even get in… And this is my heritage, not all I am. So I was filtered, like most of us are
The Palestine issue was uncomfortable for a long time…I mean, it’s was definitely uncomfortable, but it was a guaranteed safe harbor. I think this is how most of us felt… Conflicted
But then October 7th happened, and the response made it clear what this was. We had to confront what this was, and most of us are very upset about it, because our history is being on the other side of it
And now, they’re coming for the Latinos. I know how this story ends, and I don’t want to be deported to Israel. I know it sounds crazy now, but it’s not. We’re 2 years away from “putting the Jews back where they belong”
We are not Israeli. Those people are fucking crazy, don’t put me in the same breath as them. Don’t apologize for the IDF. Don’t launder what is happening.
Make the difference clear in your mind and in your words.
No one is reading that
False
Thanks
Fine - then just don’t make excuses for Jews being tied to Israel. We’re not, we’re Americans and citizens of where we’ve lived for generations
That’s an ignorant and prejudiced take, not to mention dangerous
Colonists
i would shut the fuck up and do something to stop the genocide and stop letting Israel use me as a justification for genocide
Not great. But would they be wrong more than 50% of the time? We did “elect” Mr. President for a 2nd time after all. And barely no one doubted the legitimacy of that election for more than a week. The fact he should’ve been disqualified? Apparently a non-sequitur.
So with around 50% of the voting population being MAGA idiots and the 33% non-voters their silent enablers, I’d take being called a fascist any day. It’s well deserved.
You are too close but too far.
I would feel as if I had finally found a friend
Do you know how many mass resignations have occurred at the NYT, since the invention of the terrorist state of Israel, because of their blatant misrepresentation —and often complete cover-ups— of massacres and crimes against humanity perpetrated by it?
As a tool for manufacturing consent, the NYT is second to none
I was just following orders didn’t work for the nazi’s. It shouldn’t work for Israeli’s.
Frequency and tone matters. Like the BBC it might cover Palestine opinion partially (probably when there is back lash or denying it is hard even when governments that support Israel acknowledge it) but if it is turning a blind eye 90% of the time then it is denial:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMwKX5hIAm1/
“Having too many Jews” is problematic if you fired all the arabs.
Ask old Jewish man Bernie Sanders how race can be different from views/actions! It’s not a difficult concept…
But having family members who served in the IDF is a fair indicator of political views?
A racists only weakness!