My first employer out of college told me explicitly they hired me because I was willing to stick with a 4 year program, and though I didn’t have experience they were confident I’d stick around enough to be trained. I got an art degree and it was a computer science job 🤔
You just finished 17+ years of education and invested a small fortune into yourself. If that isn’t enough for a career with a living wage and the possibility of advancement, what’s the point?
The point is to lock you into indentured servitude. As one of my favorite psychology professors likes to say: “The administration has figured out how to pick the pockets of students’ future earnings”.
Government pumps a bunch of “money” into the industry, and I put money in quotes because it’s the student who’s responsible for it. The government’s part is making it guaranteed that you get that loan. Oh, and also making that loan immune to bankruptcy.
That drove the price of college up enormously. So then you’ve got 18 year old kids signing papers to take on five or six figures of debt they can’t escape. These are people who’ve possibly never held a job, maybe never paid a bill in their life or taken a loan, being given automatic approval for huge loans.
It may not have been “designed” to do this, but the end result is a looney tunes style conveyer belt saddling people with huge debt, and in the process making college administrations very rich.
Consume the wealthy
That was how it was marketed. Explain to me how there’s not a class action lawsuit there. I remember a woman in a pantsuit with a university lanyard around her neck coming into a high school class to give a presentation about how many millions more dollars a college graduate makes. There are people in this world whose death I would celebrate with a prolonged dance involving a significant amount of hip thrusting. Hers is one of them, if I knew who she was.
Did she ever say YOU were gonna get that extra money though?
Her thesis statement was certainly “If you go to college, you will earn more money.”
She is probably an English major. You was a metaphor.
A minimum 4 year commitment was supposed to make you more valuable in the job market. That was the entire point or at least the message broadcasted. If a degree isn’t conducive to large potential for at least a 30% increase in wages, what’s the point of that time invested? Either institutes are adequately designed to promote this or they’re effectively useless in a practical sense.
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Might depend on the degree. I got CS degree and have been getting interviews far more easily than before the degree.
Plenty of people have CS degrees but are not having the same result as you. There’s likely other factors at play, it’s not just the degree
That may be true I do live in a techie area in Colorado however I applied for similar jobs in the past without a degree with no contact back. Literally the only difference is the degree.
My school did help me create a resume that seems to function better with the systems in place by employers to where hot words pop out better.
“Degree required. Must have 10 years experience.” – Every job available
You’ll also need ten years of programming experience in a language that has only existed for 2 years.
When I was an undergrad my professors put a big emphasis on developing a portfolio of work and picking up experience where we could before graduation. For me that meant freelancing a few times a month while working a part time job along with class. Internships are great, but everyone had to have one to graduate from my program. A degree will set you up, but a portfolio of work and related experience will help set you apart.
I joined the military after I had run out of money for college, and out of sheer luck ended up in a job vastly preferable to what I had been going to college for (military aviation search and Rescue vs. Band teacher). Now I’m getting on in years with lots of work experience and no degree, and people in my work are constantly getting poached by avionics and aviation companies (one guy was about 8 years from retirement, where he’d get a paycheck for the rest of his life at 40 years old, did the math, and found he’d make more over his life with the company poaching him).
I’m not saying the military is a good choice for everyone, but in the “get paid while getting experience” thing, it can work out pretty well depending on the field. And if you get into cybersecurity, you’ll end up with at least Secret clearance, which is a hot commodity if you can secure a job straight out of getting out of the military.
Just don’t be, like… infantry or admin. Have a plan going in for getting out.
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I’m in the Coast Guard. Not sure “War machine” really applies. Especially since our stuff is all from decades ago, and is generally used to save people.
One of the few parts of the military I respect. You guys, the Army Corps of Engineers, the various medical corps, I can’t think of anything else. Basically the parts that aren’t furthering the war machine and actually helping people for the most part.
Although the Coast Guard does participate in the pointless drug war, but nothing’s perfect.
Maybe not yet…
“I protect you” and “I control you” are just an inch apart.
One is a sucker punch and the other is truth after you’ve signed.
My nephew joined the Marines, wanting to be in infantry. His recruiter spent months fixing his brain and convinced him to pursue avionics instead. Really smart kid and he’s finally understanding how he’s setting himself up well when he gets out. He’s still in B or C school or whatever it’s called.
Yeah these aviation companies are just crazy for band teachers right now.
The degree will get you the interview. Experience will get you the job.
Unfortunately it’s hard to get in the door without one.
Co-ops, work study, volunteer work, even self employment cannot be understated. They’re not necessarily looking at if you have done the job, but how you’ve handled situations. De-escalation, customer service, team work, taking initiative, and reasoning are all good things to mention during an interview.
Read the job description, research the company, be prepared to ask questions to show engagement, and be prepared to show how your life experience has prepared you for the work.
And be sure to say thank you and send a follow up email or two!
Where’s this template from? A Mario animated movie?
i see you’ve been living under a rock for some time
I guess so, have to check it out
The Super Mario Bros. Movie that came out earlier this year. It’s a fun kids movie with a lot of classic Nintendo nostalgia.
They put a guardrail on Rainbow Road though… grumble
Jack Black is awesome as Bowser.
To be fair, there are renditions of rainbow road with little garden fence style railing…
But the road in the movie does not seem to be that road either so…
SNES rainbow road does not have a rail on the sides of the track.
They gave Mario an American accent for star appeal. I’d say that’s more egregious. Maybe if this was the era where Mario never talked in the games, when we had Mario cartoons where he had an American accent, but he doesn’t have one anymore. It just irked me is all.
It’s been 7 months for me and in all that time I got one job offer that they ultimately gave to someone else. The pain is real…
This is something I’m worried about. I actually have a decent-paying blue-collar job, but I want to be an engineer and expand myself. A lot of entry engineering positions pay less than what I currently make. I’d be happy breaking even, but pay cuts are a hard decision to make.
If you can keep the roof over your head, the goal is to look at longer term earning.
This is a painful trap that keeps a lot of lower income and skill folks down, life forces them to take the short term earning to stay fed, thereby missing out on longer term opportunities
Holy shit peach is fine as hell in this movie.
Horny jail
Yeah, I gotta go rub one out.
Done.
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Dude. She’s a cartoon with a giant head.
It certainly helps.
