The virtual school says its hands are tied due to Florida’s “don’t say gay” law. However, the teacher has lodged a complaint against it.
Seems like a first amendment violation to me, but then again I’m not a Bible thumping fascist
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences
It’s literally freedom from persecution from the government which is exactly what happened here. Stop parroting shit you’ve heard without understanding what it means
I see you made a new account just to be a bigot. Pretty pathetic, really. Enjoy your imminent ban
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Only if it’s approved
Only if the speech is conservative
You don’t have free speech in a childrens class room.
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can you point me to what I said that was bigoted?
I don’t understand trans people because I have never met one because they are the smallest group of people they could find to harass/hate. Which is insanity to me. I can’t overstate how unafraid I am for my children of a dude in a dress reading them “three billy goats gruff “Why the fuck make up monsters when churches exist!?
Because you create fear of those monsters that don’t exist by blowing up the image of those monsters to divert the monsters that exist within your own belief system.
“Trans people are the problem with pedophilia.” You do that to those you have indoctrinated, young people with no mind of their own, and people who statistically fall into a category of superstition and believing in figments of their imagination, Big Foot, Aliens, God and you fuel that fire with hate with things like, "the atheists want our voices to go unheard so we should kill your friendly woke white woman that supports your friendly neighborhood poorly mistreated and culturally shit on Blackman/woman. You fuel that with hate until the minority becomes the target in your political and religious agenda to spread, “love in the name of Jesus Christ, or whatever religion is popular.” Because if the enemy is justified by your power and money and beliefs then the mass takes to ignoring the issues within your own system of power and money.
So you tell your party or system, “be afraid because if we don’t target them first. They will target you, your guns, your wealth, your god, everything you believe. Everything you have to abuse the power you have now.” You do it because it keeps you in power.
Fuck cons and fuck republicans and if you are reading this and going, “uh why I never…” Then you are a port of the problem. As yourself when is the last time someone who supported the color of the rainbow truly targeted you or your children. The answer is that person is more likely to be killed by you or your affiliates and so the answer is probably never. Now as yourself the last time someone who supports the confederate flag ran over a group of protestors. Fuck you too if you believe trans people, black people, or anyone that doesn’t believe in your saving God and political party is the problem because a woman should have a right to an abortion and you think your voice is going unheard when there is no law that says if you keep your kid you are against the law. Fuck you if you just support in killing as many people as possible but your answer is, “we should support our own first.” But you will complain about your taxes that supports a fuck ton of military power in the country but you don’t want to use it to protect others but are fine with fueling the weapons we have to protect our own and more.
Fuck you if you if any of this pisses you off because you just can’t face the fact that your politics and God don’t love. They hate. Fuck you and the white ass elephant you road in on and refuse to acknowledge in the room.
I believe in aliens
Time and time again the people that go hard against gay rights get caught in homosexual relationships. In this case there’s quite a few “masculine” men who are attracted to transsexuals moreso in the case of the religious right who see the “temptation” of a transexual person as an act of the devil. They ignore the whole it’s not temptation unless you’re actually attracted to them part but they aren’t exactly the smartest kids in class either.
I had a conversation with my partner once while working as a medic on an ambulance. He told me being gay was a choice and that they were sinners going to hell. All I could answer with was “so your telling me that every day you have to tell yourself ‘no. I choose not a to suck a dick. Not today.’ Because personally I’ve never had to choose” He became so angry that I had zero doubt he has thought about sucking dick.
I had no idea Mx was a thing
This was my first time hearing of it too.
What the fuck it it anyway?
“Mix”, basically.
It’s just replacing the second letter in Mr or Ms with an X as a neutral variable
Ah, I still have a bunch of those from when I was a kid. Either tape or CD
I got you back to zero but good luck. It’s not okay to pick on ANYONE not a white dude. So. Stop it. Also, every cd I burned in the early 00ts had for its 4th track metallicas “unforgiven” as both a homage and a fuck you.
Also Florida: “Why do we have such a teacher shortage?”
Mx. is a confusing title. How is it pronounced? “X” is an obnoxious letter choice to try to genericize gender.
But the article shows this teacher tried several other reasonable titles, like “professor” and “teacher” that were also denied. That’s ridiculous, and clearly just targeting them.
Please explain how you’d know how to pronounce Mrs as missus\mizzes without someone explaining it? It’s no more confusing than that archaic bullshit.
They’re abbreviations for master and mistress. Of course those are archaic etymologies, but that’s how they evolved into abbreviations.
The strange thing is that Mx is an abbreviation that doesn’t have a basis in a word as far as I know. It’s literally conforming to those heteronormative traditions and adapting them with an “X” bandaid.
The point is that the teacher is non binary and forced to choose an honorific. They wanted to use a neologism because there isn’t an established term and they were fired because of bigotry. It doesn’t really matter if the term makes sense to you or anyone else, it was their choice.
Your comments reek of the same smug shittiness of people who throw a fit about they\them pronouns not being “grammatically correct” when singular they has been in use for ages.
Non binary people exist, and if they are required by their job to use a formal title, they should have one that recognizes who they are.
Your knee-jerk reaction is that any criticism of the word is a criticism of non-binary people. I explicitly made a point to explain that’s not the case. And I used “they” in my first comment, so I have no idea where you’re coming from.
Treating any discussion as black and white and immediately becoming defensive isn’t helping as much as you think.
There are plenty of titles they could use. The issue is this school rejected those other titles too, and that’s not right.
You sound like you’re the type of person who gets offended for other people when in fact, those other people aren’t offended in the first place. I wish I could downvote you more than once
I don’t want to send me kids to a school where the teachers intentionally try to impose their made up beliefs on them. Is it too much to ask for teachers to stick to the subjects they are supposed to teach?
Your comments reek of the same smug shittiness
Their comment doesn’t read this way at all. You’re just arguing past them.
Lol, you westerners
Or should I say, westernxs
Mr/Ms/Mrs all makes sense.
Mr -> You are a male
Ms -> You are a female
Mrs -> You are a married female
Mx -> You uhh feel like you are neither male or female or something. keyword being “feel”. The 3 above all are objective characteristics. The latter is not.
An adult should be able to teach kids without feeling the need to impose their own wacky views on them. Just use mr or ms. You are an adult, you can handle it.
You not knowing how to pronounce something isn’t reason enough for it not to exist.
I’m not saying it is, but it should be enough to start a discussion on whether there’s a better, more easily pronouncable term while we’re in a discussion about titles.
If I really think about it, what makes Mr. Or Ms. any easier to pronounce? They are actually a bit less intuitive because they are abbreviations.
As far as two letters go, I feel like Mx. is just one step removed from Mix, so it seems easy to me. Perhaps Mr. and Ms. are just easier to accept because we have lived with them our whole life. A lot of the English language seems weird when we step outside of it.
Mr. is derived from master and Ms. is derived from mistress. Their pronunciation is derived from their etymology.
I agree though that common usage plays a part.
This dang language keeps evolving, doesn’t it?
Master and Mr are different in usage, the former for young people (under 18).
Ms is pronounced with the /z/ sound, not the ‘s’ in mistress.
Ms. Mrs. And Miss are all from mistress apparently, and Ms. (MIZ) was used to address a woman regardless of marital status.
Today I learned.
I’m all for the “Ey”, “em”, “eir” pronouns, but I don’t have a stake in the game.
For example,
Ey worked as a teacher for the school until ey was fired for using neutral pronouns. Eir opinion stated in an interview was that e will not change how e refers to emself.
English needs gender neutral pronouns because they can be useful in a situation such as needing to refer to a person named Smith, but don’t know their gender. (“They, them, their” should be reserved for groups, imo).
“Mey.” Or “Mer.” could be the solution for a title in this situation.
Seems a hell of a lot easier to just use “they/them” as we already do. If it were too confusing, it would evolve into something else naturally anyway. German gets by just fine with “they” and the formal form of “you” being the same. I think we’ll be fine.
Singular they has existed for centuries, and been used that way for centuries. In normal usage, it should be obvious from context whether you’re using singular or plural.
First time studying American English?
To me a professor teaches at a college or university but teacher should 100% have been an option.
I live in MA and have an X marker. I really like it? It’s a common variable, and I like the relationship.
I usually say Mixter, but it’s English so it’s all made up.
Better to get rid of the others than add one.
I know it’s too late, but how about “Coach _____”?
How about basic respect?
How about sensei?
Senpai
I’m not trying to be negative but shouldn’t coach be reserved for people who actually coach something? I think teacher should have been available.
Paging Bostock v. Clayton County
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Made up titles are fucking stupid.
As opposed to naturally occurring titles?
As opposed to commonly accepted titles. Not made up, flavor of the day nonsense. Your generation can put up with this shit after mine is gone. Good luck, you are most definitely going to need it.
Hypothetical question:
I have a friend named Richard. He prefers to be called Rich but his boss calls him Rick.
Should his boss adjust to call him Rich because that is what he prefers, or should he just accept being called Rick because it is a commonly accepted nickname for Richard?
That’s a name, not a title. You don’t get to choose titles, they reflect objective truths.
Follow well established societal mores, do not change them for .001%.
So what would you call him?
Ms/Mrs/Mr all reflect objective truths. Mx reflects how the person feels.
All titles are “made up,” and Mx. as an honorific has been around for almost fifty years. A better question would be why our two main honorifics for people are so pointlessly gendered.
It has barely any history prior to 10 years ago. Just because some nobody said it once in the 1970’s doesn’t mean its been colloquially around for 50 years. The source of it “being around from the 1970’s” is a dubious article written in 2015. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/11597192/Whats-it-like-to-be-a-Mx.html
Your claim as to its history is simply not true, and its use has, obviously, been mostly limited to the community that generated it. Did you expect Ronald Reagan to use it in his inauguration speech?
Other than that, I don’t see what point you’re actually trying to make here.
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You just read an article about a non-binary person, so I think we can assume they are, indeed, “a thing.” Something tells me you don’t interact with a lot of queer people anyways, so your acceptance of their terms of address feels pretty irrelevant.
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How do you avoid yourself?
There’s words that develop organically and then there’s words that people make up to validate the feelings of women who would have been emos like 10 years ago. Neopronouns and titles like this are stupid and no person outside the progressive bubble will ever use them.
Organically developed, like, a community making a new word that fills a lexical need to describe a concept? Sounds a lot like “Mx.” to me. What’s stupid about it?
Organically developed
making a new word
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Try reading a book that’s a few decades old. Language evolves. Though wonder if you read books.
“Read a book sweaty 💅💅” 🤓
Here’s an idea- let’s not care if it’s fucking stupid and call people what they want to be called?
Call me big master pimpin’. I will request you be fired if you do not
I want to be addressed as “your highness”, can you do that for me? Would be pretty bigoted if you don’t, just saying
Sure, your highness. I have no problem with that. What difference does it make?
Here’s a better idea why don’t the few conform with the masses rather than the other way around. That’s some bullshit I’ll never do.
You want people to conform more? Do you live in the 1950s? This is 2023 when people have the freedom to express themselves and identify as who they want to identify as. Get out of the 20th century.
I am also one of those people and I will never recognize any of that other than ridiculous ultra left bullshit. People have freedom to play make believe, I have the freedom to not participate in their foolishness.
Yes, you can also never recognize that “f*g” and “n****r” are not acceptable in society anymore and still use them. You have the freedom to do that too. You have the freedom to be as big an asshole as you want to be.
But you shouldn’t have that freedom to fire people over how they express themselves.
Enjoy your bigotry. You seem very proud of it.
Could someone change this kids diaper.? Never stops crying.
oldbaldgrumpy
Not exactly a controversial opinion from your demographic
I agree. I would go further in saying that most people would agree it’s just plain ridiculous.
I would go further than that and assert that when you say most people, because of your specific demographic, you really just mean the people you know, who are outside of the range of groups actually accepting the kind of change you’re against.
In a way, you’re right. Most people that you find to be rational would agree that it’s just plain ridiculous. It’s just that the groups that you don’t find rational are growing and the groups that agree with your mindset are shrinking.
The evidence of that can be found by just observing how often this kind of thing happens at all. It used to not happen. Now it does enough to make news kind of often.
