Is there an absolute amount of shelf life to them

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    Very often a virtual particle–antiparticle pair appears and because they’re very happy they started existing, they immediately hug each other not knowing that will cause them to annihilate each other and disappear.

    Every once in a while, the pair appears in a very interesting position: one is outside the event horizon of a black hole (let’s call this one Pinocchio) and the other inside it (let’s call it 3735928559). Because nothing can escape a black hole, they can’t really hug, so Pinocchio says “I’m a real boy particle” and stops being virtual and becomes real, while 3735928559 continues its descent into madness singularity.

    Unfortunately, the process means there now exists something (Pinocchio) where there wasn’t anything before and that takes energy. And that energy comes from the particle that stayed behind which is now part of the black hole, so it effectively takes energy out of the black hole. You may have heard that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed, that’s essentially what happens here.

    The Pinocchios go away from the black hole, so they can end up basically anywhere in the universe.

    As for the timescales, they entirely depend on the black hole’s size. Really tiny black holes evaporate in a matter of seconds, the supermassive ones in a matter of trillions of trillions of trillions of trillions… years.

    In fact, black holes will be the last macroscopic structures to exist in the universe because the evaporation is extremely slow - every planet and every star and every gas cloud and every atom will cease to exist long before the last black hole evaporates.

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        Yep, pretty much, though the particle itself is the energy, not some kind of energy it gives off.

        Mass and energy are convertible between each other, so you can think of it as the black hole losing mass equal to the mass of the particle, if it helps.

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        Depends on your definition of “true”. Is it scientifically true? No. Is it the actual science simplified a lot so it can be read by a non-physicist human being? Yes.

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        In this context, “negative mass” is a mathematical convenience rather than an actual particle having negative mass.

        Think of it more like “energy required to pull apart a matter-antimatter pair”. In the vacuum of space, the energy that created the pair gets returned when they annihilate. But when near a blackhole, it had to “burn” some of its energy to interrupt that process. Energy is mass, so the blackhole gets less massive.

        Mind you this is a very basic explanation of it. It’s just another quantum whackyness of our universe.

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        It’s not a particle in the regular sense you might know, like an electron. The pair that comes into existence is meant to annihilate immediately (meaning there’s zero energy gain or loss) but because of where it appeared it can’t.

        When it appears as I described, there suddenly exists a real particle in the universe outside the black hole, so the universe gained +1 in energy.

        But energy can’t be created or destroyed, so that +1 means somewhere there must be a -1. And that somewhere is the black hole which caused the particle to exist in the first place by swallowing its pair.

        It’s not very intuitive, that’s the fun part about quantum mechanics: nothing is intuitive.

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        The entire reason the particles can come in to existance is because the black hole curves spacetime enough to ‘eat’ one of the pair. It only exists because of the black hole. The particle leaving the black hole takes energy away because that area of spacetime now has less energy in it, meaning the black hole shrinks. The black hole isn’t magically adding energy to the space around it in order to create these pairs.

        If you throw a ball away from you, yes you feel the force, but now you’ve sent a bunch of energy away from yourself in the ball. In effect, the black hole is ‘throwing’ particles away from itself by the simple act of eating part of the spawned particles.

        I’ve explained it poorly, but PBS Spacetime has several great episodes on the specific phenominon.