• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    Large ocean vessels like cargo and cruise ships are some of the biggest greenhouse gas producers on the planet, so I really hope this is a good way forward.

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      At the very least they should have all long-since been converted to diesel instead of bunker fuel, which emits more carbon and a shit ton of sulfur, one of the worst greenhouse gasses. But these people give less than a fuck. Countries need to be willing to stop trade with vessels like this before even the simplest technical solutions will be adopted.

    • Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world
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      It’s kind of funny because this is true, but if God came down and changed all logistics to trains and aircraft tomorrow our emissions would rise enormously. Shipping is extremely efficient, we just do a fuckton of it.

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      It seems to make economical sense to be utilising winds whenever they’re blowing. I’m no expert but reduced engine maintenance and fuel consumption at those times are the two I can think of. So long as the wind infrastructure isn’t expensive to maintain and use, this would be the preferred option sailing forward.

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    Neat - these things usually show up in the news as a render and then you never hear about it again. Being actually built full-scale is pretty cool.

    Sails obviously work, the two questions with an automated metal sail for cargo ships are cost and reliability. Making moving parts that don’t break down in high wind and salt water isn’t easy.

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      It just comes down to whether or not the fuel saved is worth more than the sail maintenance. Hopefully it is.

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        Plus there’s that whole destroying the planet thing. Not sure if that’s included as a cost.

        Bunker fuel on cargo ships is one of the biggest contributors to climate change. The damage they do is immense.

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          We should just tax bunker fuel up to a point where it’s a bit cheaper to run sails… Only if we had a planet wide universal accord on it

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            Yeah such an easy solution. So who gets to keep the tax money? Who pays the tax - the ones shipping the goods, or the ones buying the goods?

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              Did you just wake up from eternal slumber? Everytime you buy something that arrived by lorry, be it even a tomato, everyone pays for the taxes directly and indirectly.

              whoever gets paid to transport stuff around will need to buy fuel for their bussines so they can successfully deliver the goods they’ve been hired to deliver. So the company that owns the ships will get a full tank from the port, this time it will only be way more expenses due to taxes, and that maybe will push the the owners into investing into greener technology to transport goods that isn’t as polluting.

              Who keeps the taxes? The country whose port the shop was residing while fueling up.

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                We all know what taxes are. We all know you’re an armchair thinker who believes that every problem has one simple solution, which apparently only you could think of for some reason. Anyway continue to enjoy the bliss ignorance is.

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          The shareholders don’t care about the planet tomorrow when not caring today is profitable. That’s how the system works - by design.

  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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    It’s pretty wild to think that as recently as 1939 commercially-viable sailing vessels were still hauling cargo around the world. Even weirder to think that one of these vessels ended up appearing in The Godfather Part II and is now a floating restaurant in Philadelphia.