It goes without saying, DVDs/BlueRays.
I thought disks were dead 10 years ago
Discs**
Disks continue to be the most efficient way to store bonkers amounts of data.
Disks refers to magnetic storage or solid state flash storage.
Discs refers to optical media.
While optical is still king for physical distribution of media to the masses due to its low cost of production, the rise of streaming will certainly be the thing that rips physical ownership from the hands of the people.
Dont stop buying DVDs or Blurays
Sorry for the spelling
Well, I was born in 2000. When I was growing up, DVDs were everywhere. Almost all books that require supplimentary materials would include a DVD with it, we would buy all kinds of games in DVDs. DVD almost gave a feeling of storing the data physically somewhere, like you would include a DVD in a photo album that contains videos, photos were developed and put in albums and so were DVDs because you cannot really develop and watch videos.
DVDs were a part of our culture growing up and as much as I love DVDs, the times are changing and we need to change with it. We need to make peace with the current technology, whatever little it takes from us, it gives 10fold in return. A flash drive takes in that feeling of owning a DVD while providing 10x storage.
I see kids these days prefer sending files over google drive from one device to another near each other because they are too lazy to care about using wires. Funny how technological advancements have changed how people think.
I dont really believe streaming services have much to do with DVDs because people will find a way to download and listen to their favourite songs anyways.
I don’t know about DVDs, nearly 2 decades ago I thought optical media was dead and yet somehow it’s still here.
I have no idea but hopefully the ‘Proprietary’ branch of human technology is discontinued.
If things continue on the path they’re already on, it will get worse, sadly. At least that’s my opinion. I really hope it dies out.
ha fat chance. unless capitalism collapses in 10 years.
which ha, fat chance.
Windows for home consumers/home PCs hopefully.
All of it, humanity will be wiped out in the Second Emu War, and birds don’t need phones.
Birds aren’t real
If anything I think DVDs and Blu-rays are going to rise. All across the media landscape people seem to be getting annoyed with the “own nothing” society we’re in. The thrift stores are full of thousands of DVDs for barely any cost. Last week I bought the Matrix 2 and 3 and Der Untergang in DVD for like 3 bucks. Way easier than figuring out in which streaming service to watch them and what OS and browser will let it play at HD resolution. Once “the youth” picks up on this like they did with CDs and digicams the DVD will be back.
Recently In bought a Blu-ray of Star Wars Andor because I love the series and want to support it, but Disney+ wouldn’t play beyond 480p on my setup. My trusty old PS3 plays it like a dream and the resulting image is ridiculously sharp compared to streaming.
CDs, cassettes, and vinyl are already booming or in the rise again. And the streaming audio landscape is arguably way nicer than the streaming video lanschape. In photography there’s also a wave of film and early digital camera hype.
I hope that the next 10 years brings the resurgence of the physical medium and ownership. And if not that, the resurgence of the high seas.
Apparently theres a rise in demand for “dumb TVs”, to the point people are paying a premium…no sources, I read it on Lemmy.
No surprise to me. Everything I’ve heard from smart TVs has made me decide that I don’t want one. Expensive telemetry machines. My current TV is basically just a dumb screen and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
I mean flash drives, SD card and others are just as good as DVDs these days and are getting cheaper and cheaper by the day so I cannot really see why people would want DVDs and Blue Rays these days
If it were up to me that’d be fine indeed. But they probably want to retain compatibility with existing setups and unfortunately they will also want some DRM, which Blu-ray provides. A new flash storage (or even just download/file-based) standard should totally be possible, but that’d first require some investment.
Also, there’s some joy in having the plastic spinny thing and putting it into a machine to watch the content. Not having all the content ready at your fingertips and instead putting some throught and effort into getting to the content is what makes stuff like vinyl popular again.
You’re right - they’re massively better than spinny bits of plastic in every way. Speed, capacity (1tb tfcard the size of your pinky nail), cost (probably) and longevity. DVD/CD’s don’t last very well in storage.
They’ll never come back because studios will never release new movies on them.
Piracy is coming back strong, but I don’t personally see myself going back to burning DVDs instead of buying HDD/SSDs.
I mean, you’re still able to buy the Star Wars shows on Blu-ray, so physical disks for video content might remain just like people but vinyls as a collectors item. DVDs will be for old content only, but there are still so many that they may nevertheless become popular again.
Well with your DVDs the “HD resolution” question is easily answered: you don’t get HD resolution. Weird comparison there. Especially since you complain about Disney+ not going beyond 480p in your specific case - so why buy DVDs with the same shitty resolution?
I’m all for media ownership, but I don’t see the point in buying optical discs (with rather limited lifetime) at 720x480px resolution. Blu rays at least offer HD / UHD, but the plastic / coating will still degrade with time.
I think the way to go is a Homeserver (could even be a raspberry pi) where you can somewhat secure your storage with appropriate redundancy.
Because unlike with Disney+ I’d pay like one euro and I’m able to watch the content forever. But you’re right, it isn’t HD. Blu-ray is tho, with the same benefits
Well with your DVDs the “HD resolution” question is easily answered: you don’t get HD resolution. Weird comparison there. Especially since you complain about Disney+ not going beyond 480p in your specific case - so why buy DVDs with the same shitty resolution?
While I generally agree here, resolution isn’t everything, bitrate also plays a role, and some content in streaming services has been compressed rather badly so that you get artifacts that you don’t have on DVDs. A DVD will certainly look better than 480p streaming content despite a much older codec which light only exists as a reason for an upsell.
I think the way to go is a Homeserver (could even be a raspberry pi) where you can somewhat secure your storage with appropriate redundancy.
And how would you get stuff onto your homeserver legally?
I was with you until:
“And how would you get stuff onto your homeserver legally?”🙊🙉🙈
I mean if you’re going for the piracy route, you never used streaming services or bought physical media anyways and the whole discussion is moot.
Oh no… And don’t presume. Just ask.
Because I DID buy them and used the services.
I just, now, think disney, Spotify…whatever…none of them, deserve a penny more.
So i do my part against these corporations, by not giving them anything.
You do you. Buy the things.
Buy.
Buy.
Buy.
Buy…I think this situation is not so black and white. Before we had the current gazillion streaming services and Netflix had almost all content, most would-be pirates weren’t even thinking about piracy since the service was good enough. In the current situation with atrocious monthly fees and content being split across 10+ streaming services, there probably are quite a few who legally stream what they can get with their subscriptions and pirate the rest.
True, it’s always a combination of resolution and bitrate, though I personally haven’t had the kind of artifacting you are describing. However I also never stream movies etc below 1080p, so I can’t judge how bad the encoding at 480p is on Disney+. In any case, provided the bitrate / encoding is sufficient, you can never reach the level of visual fidelity of higher resolutions with DVDs.
And how would you get stuff onto your homeserver legally?
Buy and rip Blu-rays, in some rare cases you can actually download DRM-free content, depending on your jurisdiction you may also be able to remove DRM protection legally.
Please be “ai”… Please be “ai”…
Nope. The next super mario will have goombas again, and they will have AI again
Cash, at least in europe. In my opinion that decision would mark one of the most epic political fails in recent history but I fear, that’s what’s going to happen.
I just hope that something like GNU Taler (which keeps buyers’ privacy and forces sellers to report their earnings properly) becomes the norm, as opposed to the proprietary plastic card transactions we have now. I myself am guilty of switching to that system because cash is just insanely inconvenient, but I also recognize it’s pretty bad.
Why would it be a failure? I loved never having to carry anything but a phone in China.
There are a few countries like Sweden and India that are pushing more and more towards all digital payments and slowly trying to wean off cash. I think this is terrible for a number of reasons.
The big one is I work on the side as an electrician from my day job. I get paid in cash (it’s usually only like 5-10 hours a week). I save up that money and have been paying my plumber or tile guy for work that I don’t want to tackle on my own at my house. There’s a whole undercurrent of labor and an economy that gets paid in cash that does not need uncle Sam’s prying eyes. I imagine it will be a long time before banks would stop taking cash in countries pushing for everything to be digital, but who knows.
The other reason is the more vulnerable people in society. You can’t tell me that making everything cashless and only payable via smart phone doesn’t massively screw someone over who’s homeless. A lot of people only get by via panhandling and if suddenly they can’t buy food or ride public transit without a phone that is connected to cell service, that is a massive barrier.
Lastly, all cash restaurants and bars. They’re still common in my area. Things are usually a little cheaper there and I like paying cash for a few drinks. Or like the one bar I go to is still kinda lawless haha, a PBR is $2.
Yeah those are all pretty valid. Going cashless requires a lot more from society than just giving everyone an app.
Or like the one bar I go to is still kinda lawless haha, a PBR is $2.
lmao you should see how cheap liquor is in asia.
- Resiliance: No (electrical) power, no servers, no transactions, no (a bit exaggerated) society.
- Full corporation surveillance. Even worse: Performed by unsupervised and proprietary algorithms.
- Following 2) full governmental surveillance.
Regarding 2 and 3, theres a qualitative difference between the chinese government mandating corporations respect privacy and not retain or use biometric data and the US doing so (with the EU somewhere in the middle, usually), and what they have historically used that data for.
Regarding 1, in the event of a total societal collapse where not even phone towers are running, I’m not sure how much utility money would have.
Because iso/power failures, lost/broken devices, let alone the government doesn’t need to know every transaction, the inability to gift a displaced person $20, or money in a birthday card.
Wechat and Alipay do all that except the not keeping a record of transactions. There’s tons of food places where the entire payment system is just a printed QR code and they just tell you how much to pay so there’s nothing that can go down except the phone network and wifi.
You can also just give people money, which seems like it shouldn’t work with a credit card because it’s technically a cash advance. There’s been a dozen times where a store that requires everything go through an app so they can make you click through 3 menus advertising discounts if you buy more items wouldn’t work because I didn’t have a Chinese number or something, and the employee would put in the order, then I’d give their personal account the money.
I don’t have access to those. I’m in the Evil Empire.
Oh yeah, no in America or Europe, if everyone used an app to do basic functions like buying food, it would be exploited to make everything worse, no shot that it would be regulated in a way that favors the people rather than the banks.
There are still power and internet outages possible, climate disasters aren’t going to only hit those who deserve it.
Sure, nothing is lower tech than locked box with a slot in it, except maybe accepting IOUs, but most businesses that handle cash today still go down if power goes out, cell service is a little more reliable though.
As goverment can known your card transactions already if needed, then what transactions you want to hide?
The comparison was to cash, not credit cards. The government doesn’t know who I hand cash to.
It is not a matter to “want to hide”. It is more a matter to “need to know” access to my personal information. Why government want to know where and when I buy my stuffs? And most important, who will have acces to that? US recently saw that imbecile of Elon Musk being grant access to IRS data.
"want to hide” != Privacy. Maybe I want to donate anonymously. Maybe I want to leave $5 in a community pantry or pay a backyard mechanic. Maybe I want to pay a neighbor for picking up milk for me. Maybe in a world of always on surveillance, it’s a small act of resistance.
Unless something huge and world-altering happens, there is a 100% chance that it will not disappear in ten years. That would take generations because of the outliers. Although it will massively reduce in usage, and it wouldn’t surprise me if non-food stores begin to phase out cash purchases in a decade.
China is already demonstrating this, since pretty much everything is paid for with a phone these days. And some vendors are using “no cash” signs.
I’m going to be bold. The internal combustion engine car.
There will be a tipping point where nobody wants to maintain the highly intricate manufacturing for them, and they will stop very quickly. Electric motors are the future and the transition is accelerating. We’re currently around 20% of new sales and I expect after 60-70% ICEs will just disappear from sale.
we still see a lot of 20-40yr old cars around, many daily driven. if we suddenly stop making ice cars today, its still taking a while for them to truly go away in practical terms.
Most countries will be raising taxes on fuel even more and in general it will become less available fast: gas stations, mechanics who know how to fix the ICE old timers etc. it will become a hobby thing (like old timers today already). Certain niches will keep ICE way longer (heavy construction vehicles etc) but it will suddenly become quite rare in 20 or 30 years to see a regular old ICE driven by a regular person doing regular things like commuting or so.
carburators arent a thing in my country for at least 30 years now but plenty of people around who still know how to work on them.
become quite rare in 20 or 30 years
yea thats what i meant. ICE won’t be going anywhere at all in 10 years, but about 30 yes
For heavy construction vehicles only three main factors need to align: normal replacement schedule, enough capacity for the heaviest day (which is quite predictable in many industries,) and the charging infrastructure.
The last one is a major hurdle and is holding back EVs on all levels already. In the US it is also the least likely to see improvement anytime soon
I believe this… But the USA being an exception
I think the EU has plans to stop the sale of ICEs in 10 years, so… that could start a snowball effect.
I don’t think that’s bold.
It’s already at 25% last month and 50+% in China.A majority of Chinas EVs outside of Shenzhen are hybrids. Unless youre counting vespas, there’s way more electrics.
It’s only the timescale I’m unsure about.
Clearly not IPV4.
My ISp shares a single IPv4 between multiple customers, NAT 444.
So my PC is on 192.168.1.4 on the LAN, my router is on 10.183.13.62 on my ISPs network and some number of customers are sharing 84.146.73.54
They don’t give out IPv6 addresses though.
Shit. I’ve been waiting for IPv6 for 20 years.
Maybe eventually my kids will have IPv6 as the common sense default and will marvel at the ingenuity of their ancestors to keep using way too few addresses for way too many devices
Funnily enough I recently had to disable ipv4 in a game because of connection issues.
I feel like DVDs/Blurays already disappeared 10 years ago and are now making a comeback. Same for CDs. Streaming services don’t let you own anything, and if they pull something down, you’re SOL. Self hosting Plex and ripping my own disks has given me a level of freedom not possible with netflix et. al. Especially since DVDs are considered garbage to most people now, you can set up your own streaming service for you and your friends and family for cheap. No piracy necessary.
The way shit is headed, probably vaccines.
*in the US
I believe it’s propagating outside of the US
No, we have a vaccine for that.
Hopefully fax machines, but these things seem incapable of dying.
Fun? Fact, I’m in my mid twenties and have never used them.
German government has entered the
chatlandlineUnless you’re trying to use one. Then they’re always broken.
i havent seen one in years
Well obvious umbrella. It’s bad luck to open you in the house, and we don’t keep the fax machines outside.
Not disappear entirely, but most households won’t own desktop computers or HDDs.
As a homelabber, this makes me sad. Perhaps enshittification will push people back into home/local computing.
homelabbing isnt even my gripe with it. its not ever interacting with computers on your own terms, only on theirs. smartphones are a black box.
i see ads, artificial annoyances, and human right violations by technology increasing in lockstep with the reduction of our collective control over computing.
smartphones are a black box.
Many Android phones still have a bit of that tinkering ability to them (you kinda have access to the file system, and you can root them/flash custom android distros), but it’s quickly diminishing because (1) OEMs are locking the bootloaders, (2) it’s getting harder and harder to get hardware working without proprietary OEM hacks, (3) bank apps and other proprietary garbage that’s becoming a necessity in modern times refuses to run on an unlocked phone.
I agree. I’m also very sad when I see small kids watching YouTube videos on tablets; that’s pretty much all they do.
Where’s the fun of tinkering? Trying to build things? Trying fixing problems, such as formatting?
Kids don’t even have the concept of files and folders. We’re raising a generation of digital slaves.
Honestly I don’t think that’s tru. There were very few kids who truly tinkered with their computers in the old days too - first because not many kids had computers in the first place, and then because computers started being useful without any tinkering. There are still a lot of youths (12-16) today who are flashing LineageOS on their phone or installing Linux on their Chromebook, or whatever. I know because they keep flooding the NixOS Telegram chat that I’m managing - and I try to welcome them with open arms!
I would hope, but on the whole you’d almost think they deliberately purged home computing from the mainstream consciousness, with how tragically ignorant the average person is about anything that isn’t a little poke-driven rectangle that screams at you all day.
M.2 > HDD
Most people connected to the Internet today have never owned a desktop computer nor an HDD. A crazy amount of people have been introduced to computing with smartphones.
Social security and pensions I think.
I don’t know of any millennial or younger who assumes there will be a safety net for them at the end of the road. We just don’t trust those in charge to keep it. I’ll fight for it, I paid into it and I want others to have it, but I can’t bank on it either
There’s simply no way to keep pensions. It’s like a big pyramid scheme where new people are putting the money and old people are enjoying them; the problem is that old people are growing and they’ve been living longer, and young people are less and less.
The problem is the owners don’t pay their fair share, nothing else.
Productivity has risen to cover everything.
Fuck that, we’ll burn it all down if they take social security from us. It’s largely paid from existing taxes as it is. We just need to get through this shit show of an administration first. That or pray Mario shows up
