• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    FTFH: Orbán: “Ukraine is not NATO member and I intend was commanded by Putin to keep it that way”

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    4 hours ago

    good thing our glorious german arms manufacturer Rheinmetall (creators of the Leopard tanks) built the world’s most high-tech tank factory in fucking Hungary of all places. Putin will soon sport some sleak looking new MBT’s in Ukraine thanks to us greedy Germans :)

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      59 minutes ago

      If the next year’s elections fail and Orbán stays in power then we can start calling it Western Belarus from then on.

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      “There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic. He’s a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him.”

      Donald Trump, predictably

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      I don’t think there’s any need to evict it to pressure it to vote the right way.

      So Hungary blocking things is a collective performance.

      Or maybe not, then the leverage they gain from veto is more than the pressure put at them. In such case that leverage is apparently damn big and they are a small country.

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        9 hours ago

        This just hands over an EU country to the Russian and Chinese influences, which is why Hungary is where it’s at in the first place.

        This is the kind of thing that needs covert counter-ops: undermine and question orban at every online forum, constantly make Putin look bad, push against every single government policy, etc.

        So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.

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          This just hands over an EU country to the Russian and Chinese influences

          Far too late for that. Orban is a Russian shill and should be treated accordingly.

          Few years outside of the EU, with closed borders and no new funds may cause Hungarians to proudly follow Romanian way with Orban ending like Caucescu.

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          So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.

          You mean western nations’ government policies are all perfect and people pushing against them are Russian shills? And making their politicians look bad?

          Maybe those governments and politicians are Russia-infiltrated, and these complaints are resistance.

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            You say “maybe” like it’s some unknowable quantity, but we can see what is going on in Hungary and that it’s getting increasingly authoritarian, and we can see Russian attempts to influence western democracies through bot farms and the like. It’s not unknowable; the evidence is there.

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      11 hours ago

      Can’t we just combine Austria and Hungary again? Everybody loved that.

      Well, except Bosnian Serbs I guess.

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        Austria isn’t as blatant as Hungary but their policy is also pretty russia-friendly.

        And there is a reason A-H collapsed and it wasn’t just because of WW1 and Bosnian Serbs. Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians or basically anybody who wasn’t German or Hungarian hated the monarchy in the end(With the possible exception of the Croats, who reached some kind of agreement with Hungarians right before the collapse).

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    Of course he will keep it that way. He won’t have the time to continue sucking off Putin if he has to think about NATO membership. Hungary needs to flush that miserable turd down the political toilet once and for all.

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    11 hours ago

    Homie looks like the heel of a foot. Putin sure knows how to pick the pretty ones.

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      While he’s not as extreme as Órban, Magyar is also against helping Ukraine defend itself, and he’s being at least ambivalent about letting join the EU and NATO after the war.

      We might have a Hungary problem, not a Fidesz problem.

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        When faced with the choice of good relations with the EU (including funding and cooperation) and standing with Putin, Magyar may, unlike Orban, make the pragmatic choice.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        When you have someone blow the double of the whole healthcare budget on Ukraine fearmongering, who has been supported by a practically unlimited EU budget, it becomes hard to campaign on Ukraine.

        Magyar pledged to have a referendum on Ukraine joining, when the question actually comes up. I don’t know what else he can do right now, considering the situation.

        Most Hungarians support the unconditional early joining of Ukraine BTW, and a lot more support it if conditions are kept.