• ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      This just hands over an EU country to the Russian and Chinese influences, which is why Hungary is where it’s at in the first place.

      This is the kind of thing that needs covert counter-ops: undermine and question orban at every online forum, constantly make Putin look bad, push against every single government policy, etc.

      So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.

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        11 hours ago

        This just hands over an EU country to the Russian and Chinese influences

        Far too late for that. Orban is a Russian shill and should be treated accordingly.

        Few years outside of the EU, with closed borders and no new funds may cause Hungarians to proudly follow Romanian way with Orban ending like Caucescu.

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        8 hours ago

        So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.

        You mean western nations’ government policies are all perfect and people pushing against them are Russian shills? And making their politicians look bad?

        Maybe those governments and politicians are Russia-infiltrated, and these complaints are resistance.

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          8 minutes ago

          This is the sort of stupidification of issues that we see from bot farms: cherry pick one point, then blow it out of proportion so that there’s no more nuance, no more gray, no room for middle ground.

          Everything becomes black and white, polarised, simple: with us or against us.

          Fucking moron.

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          You say “maybe” like it’s some unknowable quantity, but we can see what is going on in Hungary and that it’s getting increasingly authoritarian, and we can see Russian attempts to influence western democracies through bot farms and the like. It’s not unknowable; the evidence is there.