• Pennomi@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I don’t think that’s true. There were violent riots accompanying every major social change in at least recent history.

    And famously, it took an entire fucking war to end slavery in the United States.

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      1 day ago

      Often it’s the shadow of violence that is most effective. A peaceful protest, that is safe enough for families etc is perfect for snowballing. Focused action and the threat of counter violence keeps the government in check.

      Too violent, and the support collapsed, letting the police simply overwhelm it. Too passive, and the whole thing can be ignored.

      The Irish troubles are a good example. Protests and marches showed popular support. While the Sinn Fein party provided a political face. The IRA then made sure that proper attention was paid. All 3 were required to achieve their goals.

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        I’m wary to use terms like debt slavery or wage slavery because it downplays the horrors of actual slavery.

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          22 hours ago

          Yeah there are certainly logistical comparisons that could be made, but like c’mon… actually being completely and legally owned would suck so so so so much worse. Just another reminder of what’s at stake if we don’t put up a fight.

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      it took an entire fucking war to end slavery in the United States.

      Well… how’s that going?