Reddit improved their anti-ban evasion system, cuz it’s the sixth or more failed attempt at evading a permanent ban. Never more, I am staying here.

FUCK YOU, SPEZ!

  • Krudler@lemmy.world
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    Ugh. So much to unpack here.

    First off, you have to act like a massive shit-loaf to get perma’ed from Reddit in the first place. Now you’re declaring your love for this community because you can’t get back into Reddit.

    Welcome, I guess.

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      Right. More often than not when these posts pop up you can check their comment history and see exactly why they keep getting banned.

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      First off, you have to act like a massive shit-loaf to get perma’ed from Reddit in the first place.

      In a lot of cases, yes. Not in all of them, due to bot-based bans.

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      I got permabanned arguing with right wing trolls. I don’t think I was too bad, but maybe?

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        Who can say, right? The gears of Reddit are inscrutable.

        That said, when you engage with an extremist, there’s always 20 other extremists looking at your replies and just waiting to report you if you say the slightest mean thing. They are mucilaginous troglodytes and one mustn’t extend to them the credence that they’re dealing in good faith.

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      you have to act like a massive shit-loaf to get perma’ed from Reddit in the first place

      I had an account perma’d there for saying “the only good nazi is a dead nazi” which I accept was against TOS but would argue does not make me a “massive shit-loaf”

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        Amazingly his account here is banned now. I would argue that does make him a “massive shit-loaf”

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s actually not too hard to get perma’d due to a handful of bullshit/nonsensical bans that just stack up over time. Also, they were VERY liberal with the permaban hammer around when they announced the API lockdown.

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      I got permabanned on Reddit (it got turned around because even the mods of the subreddit and of other subreddits said it was bullshit) for making a joke about wishing Indiana’s attorney general got punched in the face because he said something about something being a punch in the face. Like they banned me for jokingly wishing what he said happened to him metaphorically would just happen to him. Not saying someone should do it, certainly not saying I would do it, just wishing that it would happen. Permaban from all of Reddit for a joke that didn’t actually call for violence and was clearly just referencing the post’s headline.

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      Incorrect

      I got banned by a bot because I went into an antivax subreddit to question them. The fact I posted on a “forbidden” subreddit got me auto banned by about a dozen subreddits, instantly. There was NO attempt to check the comment for context. Then I forgot I was banned by one of them and months later posted with another account and got permabanned for ban evasion. A 10 yr account down the drain.

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      I got banned from several subreddits for participating in r/conspiracy. By participating, i did some kind of bit with another user about OJ prices.

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      My partner doesn’t use reddit and hasn’t used lemmy. She was permabanned despite not commenting or posting for about 6 months. The comments that were there were just asking questions about video games.

      No reason or explanation was given. The only recent behaviour was subscribing to a trans-supportive community. We figure that might have pissed off an admin somehow. That’s the only activity that she did during those 6 months. If either of us should have been banned, it should have been me, to be honest. We have different IPs, so there shouldn’t have been any confusion on who was who. My account stayed active, even though I admittedly wasn’t always friendly with people. Every account she made was also banned without reasoning.

      I initially stopped using it because I thought that was dumb, then a few months later the whole API thing happened.

      Best of luck to you, I hope you continue to have a better experience than we did lol.

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      Ugh. So much to unpack here.

      I can’t imagine a greeting more Lemmy than that

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    I finally overwrote all my comments and deleted my account. 16 years there, but as soon as I checked the front page this week before deleting, every comment and post was the same old “this” and “take my upvote” and vitriolic hate toward different or uncommon opinions, zero dialogue, such a mess

    Thanks lemmings

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      Just make sure to check again in a day or two. At the height of the purge, reddit was shown to be restoring deleted or over-written comments to what they were before.

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        I know that they were restoring deleted accounts, but I don’t think there’s any way for them to restore over written comments to previous versions, so overwritten comments are probably more important than actually deleting the account, although you can delete it after you overwrite everything.

        • Krudler@lemmy.world
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          Nothing is ever deleted from Reddit and edits are stored. Deleting it doesn’t actually delete it, it just marks it as deleted.

          This is information coming directly from Reddit devs/admins over the years.

          • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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            Can you link to evidence of comments being timestamped, restored or archived by reddit? I’ve read about both deletes being reversible and edits being stored, but I found no incontrovertible evidence for comment iterations being stored or recovered, although there seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence for deleted accounts being easily restored by admins, which would make sense.

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              No because I can’t be bothered. Its common knowledge and again, this comes from multiple confirmations even from spez himself.

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                I’ve heard that repeated, but I haven’t seen any evidence of it with regards to overwritten comments. Deletions, yes, but so far there doesn’t seem to be any cause for concern for restoring overwritten comments.

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      I got banned for telling some right wing troll to go fuck themselves and can’t get around their ban evasion now either. Reddit got really soft and bans for any “personal attack”

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        Reddit got really soft and bans for any “personal attack”

        Can you get around it if you suffix every comment with “Nothing personal.”

        Fuck you. Nothing personal.

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          To be extra sure, also preface it:

          No offense, but fuck you. Nothing personal.

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          They started banning much more freely shortly before the whole 3P API fuckery - surely as another part of the IPO prep. I was getting banned for relatively innocuous comments, and would always get my account reactivated a week after appealing. My last appeal was accepted during the blackout, but I just never bothered to log back on …

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        And this place isn’t? I was banned for the following comment the other day:

        Can’t find a single link to methodology or what the population was. Unless my Google is horrific I would take this with a grain of salt. Men are definitely overrepresented. However in my 15 years of experience working in the field I’ve seen maybe one overt case of sexism. I can count on one hand times where I’ve heard a “under the radar” type problematic statement that I’ve needed to address. I do not believe this data is representative of anything in the US or EU from my personal experiences.

        And

        Good. This is a simple fucking trademark case and the union is going to lose hard. A first year JV could win this.

        I even got one calling me genocidal but can’t see it. I would love to see what I said that was genocidal lol.

        Modlog is a disaster with tons of " I don’t agree with you so I’m going to call you a troll and remove your comment". Go look for yourself.

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        Same, but it was a kys to some guy I had a beef for some time, I really wonder what a reddit admin was doing looking at a NSFW AI subreddit because that ban was way too fast and no one claimed the deed in the comments even the guy who I was discussing with lol

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        I got banned for telling left wing trolls to go fuck themselves.

        I guess we equaled out lol

        Reddit got me for harassment, agreed on Reddit got really soft

        bans should be for illegal activity, overt harassment, targeting someone or something to that nature, getting a little heated shouldn’t resort to a ban

        open discussion without the threat of getting banned is the American way

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      I once posted a theory that Deckard HAD to be a replicant because of the way genetics actually works (him having a child in 2049 proves it, I mean).

      A mod called my comment a “Luke warm take for piss brains” and removed it, so I told him to go fuck himself. Banned, not just from the sub, but from all of reddit.

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    Start your niche community on lemmy then advertise it in some other groups. You might be surprised how much better it is here.

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    I’m in the process of deleting my posts in a few accounts in preparation to delete them.

    Reddit isn’t the same place it was when I first signed up. On so many levels it proceeded to get worse year after year. Shitty mods, paid political bot brigading to drown out discussion, general discourse devolution, innovation decline of generally loved features are some of my biggest complaints of that platform.

    Don’t get me wrong reddit was always a bit of anarchy, but the best comments somehow managed to rise up. Not so much anymore. Maybe I’m just getting old and some of the comment contents don’t interest me in the same way it used to.

    I don’t mind being part of this community even though some of the sub’s have less activity. The activity seems to be of a better quality for the most part imho.

    For me I don’t miss reddit at all.

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    I still have a bunch of accounts but it’s actually not a friendly site to use. I remember telling friends about it back in the day and they’d try and use the site, then they’d come back and be like “everyone on that site is an asshole.” I’d explain it in some dumb way but it’s basically true in essence. I even modded some default subs like 10 years ago and it was the first time I started hating the site.

    Even hobby subs had these issues. Like the top post in r/synthesizers would be about some youtube personality and people debating about drama. People who post actual music and productive things don’t get upvoted. Saying you liked the “wrong” people got you made fun of. Super trend/hype based as well. I posted asking for advice for a product to buy once, and was heavily discouraged from getting what I thought was the right thing, I got it anyway, and now it’s basically a meme as the top recommended product for that purpose on that sub.

    Basically moved to forums and discord servers for a lot of interests and it’s so much better than reddit. Early 2010s was the golden age for the site back when there’d be those reddit meetups and stuff.

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        It’s also so fake, people performing the idea they’re successful at the hobby as a sort of feedback loop of validation. Posts about buying a thing or showing their stuff always gets more interest than someone engaging in the hobby, with the exception of influencer types or the upper echelon of aspiration.

        Joining other communities… music and car related to be specific, I post a work in progress and get instant feedback and messages from people in the relevant scene to share their process etc. The influencers are in the mix with everyone else and are contributing things everyone can use.

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      I found it took about 3 months to get bored with a subreddit. That was about how long it took to see the same postings and comments cycling over and over.

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    r/fuckyouinparticular did their ban some random person for 3 days to me even though I don’t even use my reddit account anymore and just let it sit there taking space on reddots servers

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    Maybe they wouldn’t have problem with ban evasion if they weren’t giving out bans the drop of a hat

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      Everything is being automated. The Admins are automated. The mods are increasingly automated. The subs are filled with botspam. The comments (have always been, but are now overwhelmingly) filled with bot-chatter.

      The end goal of Reddit is to automate away anything that might cut into the company’s bottom line. I’m convinced they’re going to functionally do away with the comments section sooner or later. Just set up a byzantine set of bureaucratic hurdles that no human can actually clear. Then all that’s left is the bots, and all you are allowed to do is look through the glass at the simulation.

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    They literally banned me for “abusing the report feature” like I’m sorry are you asking me NOT to report heinous bigotry?? Fuck reddit and fuck spez

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    I got banned for ban evasion when I logged in at a public library. I have never been banned before. I appealed and got denied.

    It was a 10 year old account 50k karma, just like that. A little upset but what can you do?