Palestinians in northern Gaza reported fierce air and artillery strikes as Israeli troops backed by tanks pressed into the enclave with a ground assault that prompted more international calls for civilians to be protected.
actually it’s a tactical flanking maneuver - unless hamas manages to anchor their forces to terrain that’s impassible they’re basically fucked - but since everything in Gaza is susceptible to saturation bombing, they’re entirely fucked.
No matter the human suffering and trauma. If what happens in Gaza, happens to any western country the outcry would be enormous but right now they only turn a blind eye.
How many more civilian deads and suffering the Palestinian population needs to endure for Israel to stop the atrocities.
Killing 1400 doesn’t give them the right to kill 10 times more civilians. How many condemnations from human rights watch groups are going to convince Israel and their supporters that what they are doing is absolutely morally corrupt and they aren’t any better if not worse than Hamas.
I am personally appalled by the atrocities of Israel! This isn’t justified, this is absolutely disproportionate and horrific and if you don’t think the same I wonder what a “great” human being you might be.
Can confirm, several rockets everyday. Checkout insta/snaps of people in the south. they are used to it now, drinking coffee and watching oncoming missile from Gaza. This is a very asymmetric war and people cheer a side because the other side has protections in place. Very weird times
conflict is inevitable. there will always be someone who desires something that someone else has - territory, money, resources, etc. when those people get enough supporters who share similar beliefs, war is the result. it’s the reality we exist in.
And it is up to the international community to say that this isn’t fine. I am totally with you.
The only problem is that no matter how many international organizations are trying to tell Israel that grabbing land from Palestinians isn’t okay, that creating illegal settlements isn’t okay, they continue doing it and incite violence. So they are historically the aggressor in this case.
yeah, if you look at maps from the last ~60+ years, that’s certainly true. it’s also true that Arab majority countries/organizations keep attacking Israel & they keep losing. each time they taste defeat, Israel seizes more territory. this is completely normal in wargaming (running strategic/tactical scenarios, not just 4x gaming), as well as in an active real world conflict.
an expected outcome arises from specific actions taken, or the wrong actions taken perhaps. it’s like whomever is leading hamas is stuck in an echo chamber - they keep fucking up. repeatedly, and then not learning from their mistakes. its just bizarre.
Doesn’t this 100% apply to Israel too? That they are also stuck in an echo chamber? Just look at the casualties on both sides before the 7th of October: https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
And now explain to me how come that the armed wing of Hamas is believed around 30K the number of the injured Palestinians are 152.560, many of which are kids and women. In comparison the number of injured Israelis is 6.307.
I think the numbers speak for themselves and any reasonable human being would realise that the amount of force IDF is exercising is absolutely disproportionate. The same that was called “most moral army in the world”, I find this highly cynical.
Any other nation would have launched a special operation in their homeland to rescue the hostages. They would also ask help from the un to assist. So this is not equivalent in any sense.
Those morons are going to kill each other and blame Hamas and they’ll literally have no one to blame but themselves
actually it’s a tactical flanking maneuver - unless hamas manages to anchor their forces to terrain that’s impassible they’re basically fucked - but since everything in Gaza is susceptible to saturation bombing, they’re entirely fucked.
unconditional surrender is the smart play
I don’t think it is too smart when your enemy wants to cleanse your ethnicity from the face of the planet.
that’s hamas’s position, yes.
Fighting for your existence is always the right choice.
interestingly enough, there wouldnt actually be any fighting if hamas hadnt attacked.
Just Palestinians being oppressed for another 50 years, right?
No matter the human suffering and trauma. If what happens in Gaza, happens to any western country the outcry would be enormous but right now they only turn a blind eye.
How many more civilian deads and suffering the Palestinian population needs to endure for Israel to stop the atrocities.
Killing 1400 doesn’t give them the right to kill 10 times more civilians. How many condemnations from human rights watch groups are going to convince Israel and their supporters that what they are doing is absolutely morally corrupt and they aren’t any better if not worse than Hamas.
I am personally appalled by the atrocities of Israel! This isn’t justified, this is absolutely disproportionate and horrific and if you don’t think the same I wonder what a “great” human being you might be.
If any other country but Israel had thousands of rockets fired at it, there would be a massive outcry. Instead we have people cheering.
Can confirm, several rockets everyday. Checkout insta/snaps of people in the south. they are used to it now, drinking coffee and watching oncoming missile from Gaza. This is a very asymmetric war and people cheer a side because the other side has protections in place. Very weird times
The only difference now is that you are cheering when civilians are killed now in Gaza?
the last time this happened in a western nation it was a world war. the 2nd one. history is a thing, I suggest you educate yourself.
I am well aware of the history, fret not! But isn’t it human responsibility to try to avoid the mistakes we did in the past.
Or your point being that this has happened in the past, so it is perfectly fine to happen again?
conflict is inevitable. there will always be someone who desires something that someone else has - territory, money, resources, etc. when those people get enough supporters who share similar beliefs, war is the result. it’s the reality we exist in.
And it is up to the international community to say that this isn’t fine. I am totally with you.
The only problem is that no matter how many international organizations are trying to tell Israel that grabbing land from Palestinians isn’t okay, that creating illegal settlements isn’t okay, they continue doing it and incite violence. So they are historically the aggressor in this case.
yeah, if you look at maps from the last ~60+ years, that’s certainly true. it’s also true that Arab majority countries/organizations keep attacking Israel & they keep losing. each time they taste defeat, Israel seizes more territory. this is completely normal in wargaming (running strategic/tactical scenarios, not just 4x gaming), as well as in an active real world conflict.
an expected outcome arises from specific actions taken, or the wrong actions taken perhaps. it’s like whomever is leading hamas is stuck in an echo chamber - they keep fucking up. repeatedly, and then not learning from their mistakes. its just bizarre.
Doesn’t this 100% apply to Israel too? That they are also stuck in an echo chamber? Just look at the casualties on both sides before the 7th of October: https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
And now explain to me how come that the armed wing of Hamas is believed around 30K the number of the injured Palestinians are 152.560, many of which are kids and women. In comparison the number of injured Israelis is 6.307.
I think the numbers speak for themselves and any reasonable human being would realise that the amount of force IDF is exercising is absolutely disproportionate. The same that was called “most moral army in the world”, I find this highly cynical.
Any other nation would have launched a special operation in their homeland to rescue the hostages. They would also ask help from the un to assist. So this is not equivalent in any sense.
the IDF have special electronic warfare packages that identify friend vs foe.