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      I, too, thought a lot about this.

      Having kids now and reflecting on my childhood, it’s extremely obvious that my parents truly had the best intentions and tried their best.

      But they, too, are fallible and made mistakes.

      Some of those mistakes were due to a lack of knowledge or bad advice they received. I think that nowadays, thanks to the internet, it’s quite feasible to get much better advice. On the other hand, there is also a lot of disinformation.

      I am optimistic that each generation will get better, because knowledge tends to accumulate and humanity tends to improve over time.

      But perfection is still far away in a distant future.

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          Yeah, but that’s not because of generational progress.

          Many civil rights in the USA weren’t properly arranged for through democratic laws, but by Supreme Court decisions.

          They were always at risk. Once you achieve the same level of progress through electoral majorities, they are much more stable and secure.

          As for workers rights and inequality, there is a similar story. Between the great depression and globalization there was a time of great progress, but it was never sustainable.

          It only occurred because two world wars and a great depression left the world in tatters and destroyed the power of the wealthy, while the Western world still fully enjoyed the fruits of colonialism. Western Middle classes suddenly had all the power for a brief moment in time.

          Now, we will have to figure out how to create real equality, without exploiting other countries and without relying on war and depression to break the power of the rich.

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              With humanity, it’s always two steps forward, one step back.

              The USA ended slavery, then introduced segregation and share cropping.

              They ended segregation, then started the war on drugs to imprison minorities.

              They elected a black man, then a fascist.

              Similar things can be seen in other countries. Russia got rid of communism, then elected Putin. China opened up, now they have a dictator.

              But, in general, the direction is forward.

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        I’m convinced that the intentions you have don’t mater that much. It’s how well you’ve managed to solve your own problems that determines how fucked up your kid is going to be.

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      I wish I could adopt the mindset of them having good intentions and whatnot, but sometimes parents really shouldn’t have been parents and are just truly shitty people.

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          Nah it’s okay! I only said something so that any other people reading the thread who relate could feel like they were heard/seen, I guess? I didn’t think you were discounting it at all.

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    Society needs to change on a fundamental level. The school system is flawed. The government is flawed. Social expectations are flawed. The tech industry is rotten to the core. The environment is collapsing under the weight of random stuff humanity wants but doesn’t need or benefit from. Our generation needs to fix this and clean up after our ancestors.

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      One of the larger problems is the government of the USA anyway providing zero healthcare/mental healthcare or any social help/care to it’s own citizens then somehow expecting in the future to have a functioning country.

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        while i agree that perfection doesn’t exist, i disagree to be happy with what you got. you can make improvements without seeking perfection.

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        Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis Why not have both. One can appreciate the good things while also improving on the bad parts. Nobody ever should expect any system to be perfect, but rather seek its steady and never-ending improvement.

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      Our generation needs to fix this and clean up after our ancestors.

      that sounds exhausting

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    “Are you traumatized in any way? No? Think again! Did I do anything traumatizing? Tell me, I’m willing to admit and learn from my mistakes. So tell me, what did I do that traumatized you and don’t look at me like that! I’m really trying to help you!”

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    my favourite is the one that shows 2 people at the park with a stroller, arguing about which one of them needs to go to therapy, and the baby in the stroller thinks that they’ll be the one to go to therapy since neither parent will.

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      It can be difficult later life with no one obligated to attempt to care or find care for your frail body. But no one says I have to live that long.

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        I don’t even need to live that long either, as long as it’s amazing it’s good enough for me.

        Long life doesn’t matter if it’s gonna be completely miserable all the time.

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    This is my fear with having kids and part of the reason I still haven’t done it. I like the idea of having kids but don’t want to actually do it and force someone to live with the consequences of my shitty parenting

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    I really don’t know why I was born, overall it’s like wallowing in a cesspool, I’m not even exaggerating about it, it’s just a simple thought of what it’s been like over the years.

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    🎶 Nothing changes coz it’s all the same

    The one you get’s the one you give away

    It all just happens again

    Way down the line 🎶

    And all the things you learned when you’re a kid

    You fuck up just like your parents did

    It all just happens again

    Way down the line 🎶

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    Everyone who has kids or plans to have kids should go to therapy, it’s the only way to stop the cycle of trauma