I know that after you leave office as POTUS it is some sort of unwritten rule that you withdraw from politics.

Why did Trump not withdraw?

Also why isn’t he a senator or congressman during Biden’s term?

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    Unfortunately political systems are often held together with “tradition” and “gentleman’s agreements”, where conventions dictate how people should behave. Politicians typically followed them because it is seen as the honourable and right thing to do.

    However, it seems to be a recent trend among the hard right that politicians just ignore those conventions because:

    a) those conventions are inconvenient b) honour means nothing to them, and c) nothing actually enforces those unwritten rules - so there are no consequences for ignoring them

    Similar things have happened here in the UK as well. I guess our political systems both assume some degree of good will & trust in its representatives, and it generally turns out that trust is misplaced.

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      You make a great case for getting rid of implicit rules and making them explicit at least within the current political environment (I mean the resurgence of fascism and other inhuman currents)

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    Trump actually promised to leave us alone if he lost. He also suggested that he’d move to a foreign country.

    “If I lose to [Biden], I don’t know what I’m going to do. I will never speak to you again,” Trump told supporters at a rally in North Carolina.

    Trump made similar remarks in 2016 when he rivaled Hillary Clinton for the presidency: “I don’t think I’m going to lose, but if I do, I don’t think you’re ever going to see me again, folks,” Trump said. “I think I’ll go to Turnberry and play golf or something.”

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    Here’s an article to give you a little more context historically :

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/11/16/few-former-presidents-have-run-for-their-old-jobs-or-anything-else-after-leaving-office/

    But the answer to your question is probably found in the fact that Trump never ran for any other office, much less served. (I could argue he never served as president either, he only took and had others serve him, but that would be bringing “politics” into it.) He ran as an “Outsider,” who was unstained by the inevitable compromises of working with others, who was going to run the country like a business. He did. If you look at how he ran his business affairs, it’s pretty consistent with his presidency.

    He’s got a lot of power still in the Republican Party, without having to spend any time working on legislation or living in DC.

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    In fairness to Trump, he’s been pretty busy defending himself from a record number of indictments. Gets in the way of political participation.

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    John Quincy Adams went on to become a Representative for MA in the House and I’d argue was the only real demotion post-presidency.

    William Taft went to the Supreme Court after his Presidency (not exactly a lateral move in and of itself) but was the Chief Justice so it’s probably close. Then again institutions powers wax and wane over time, so it could be argued that it was a demotion.

    Lastly, kind of a bonus factoid of post-presidency activity – Teddy Roosevelt, after serving a term plus some (edit: he took over the presidency as the VP after McKinley’s assassination) and was a Republican. He later ran in 1912 as a candidate for the Bull-Moose Party after a rift in the Republican party when they nominated the above W. Taft instead of himself or another more Progressive Republican.

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      How is SC seat a demotion? The only real power the president has is wartime, and Americans aren’t fond of war especially if it has a chance to end up at their borders.

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        In addition to the veto power mentioned above, there’s also the power to issue executive orders and to nominate judges, including supreme justices. Those are fairly significant. There’s also the influence they have over foreign policy.

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    Why would he want to? Trump only cares about Trump.

    He doesn’t need money and has always planned on running for POTUS again. Any other political position would look like a big loss to him.

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    That’s after you serve your two terms and essentially retire from politics that you don’t get involved. Trump very much wants to return, so he’s involved.

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    Imagine conservatives don’t have to get pissy about stuff they made up themselves. After decades of imaginary things, fabricated in their own minds, it’s easy to not take a single thing serious that comes out of their mouths.

    One day it will be something real, something serious and dangerous for us all. And nobody will listen to them.

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      Yeah there is a lot that is going wrong there! especially there used to be at least in the USA the mantra of “I didn’t vote for the guy but he is our president and as such I stand behind him in support” that is completely gone it seems. I know republicans in the past who said things like that to me.