Authorities find more bodies after initial report of 115 two weeks ago, when owners were evicted and police investigated foul odor
The remains of at least 189 decaying bodies were found and removed from a Colorado funeral home, up from about 115 reported when the bodies were discovered two weeks ago, officials said Tuesday.
The remains were found by authorities responding to a report of a foul odor at the Return to Nature funeral home inside a decrepit building in the small town of Penrose, Colorado.
Efforts to identify the remains began last week with help from an FBI team that gets deployed to mass casualty events like airline crashes. Fremont sheriff Allen Cooper described the scene as “horrific”.
Wtf is this thread. There’s a comment chain going wild about how to bury your own body.
Is there a Lemmy bestOf?
When you have a loved one pass away… and you get forced to pony up $10k for a basic service, cremation in a nice casket, and a pretty expensive “basic” urn for the ashes, because the funeral home won’t let you use anything cheaper like a pine box or a shroud, with the only choice being between an “eco gas” cremation in your own city vs. a $2k cheaper “non eco” one a city over… you’ll understand why people call funeral homes parasites and look for alternatives.
Just put me in a Folgers can. Just because we’re bereaved doesn’t make us saps!
Refuse to accept the body. The local government will have to take care of it.
Checked on that, it’s a 2K€ minimum community service, they take the body, cremate, then dump the ashes into a common pit, no extras. Next of kin are still supposed to pay the 2K€ “when their economy improves” (basically if you’re earning anything above minimum wage, then you’re on the hook).
Also if your loved one dies at home, “refusing the body” is not really an option, you want the body out ASAP before it stinks the whole place (had my mom for a day, took a couple weeks to get rid of the smell).
That is why every funeral home has those big garage doors. If you don’t see it from the street just look in the back. Dialysis bodies smell the worst. Imagine rotting meat soaked in urine.
I love this comment thread. People advocating for the general public being responsible for this. Oh yes please have people randomly disappear from society buried uphill from water supplies. Screw thousands of years of civilization dealing with this problem.
Imagine rotting meat soaked in urine
You can use a pinewood casket.
Here in Spain, you “are legally allowed to use a pinewood casket or just a shroud”… at the same time as “only a funeral home is allowed to perform a cremation or burial”… and they all refuse to do businesses with you unless you also pay for a much pricier casket and some extra services.
Nice tiny loophole, ain’t it?
Hmm ok so what do Roma, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus do?
Protest. There’s a few faith-specific funeral homes, even some that offer free burials for immigrants without resources, but otherwise just protest.
Interesting.
You’re seeing that in-between moment when a wildly ignorant comment is upvoted to the top quickly but comes down slowly. It’s still hot, but the OP has been downvotes far below most corrective comments.
It’s a good chain. I want to be tossed in the ocean (when I’m dead).
Lemmites thinking anyone who provides a service is a parasitic bourgeois bastard that needs guillotining.
Funeral homes are parasites. Families should prepare and bury their own, unembalmed with no casket. A dead body is the most biodegradable matter in nature. Why pump it full of formalin and doll it up like a tart? Mourn the life of the dead, not their physical body.
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This is the answer. It’s a pollution issue as much as a mortician issue.
There is this clothing donation dumpster thing by my work that has a couch infront of it. It’s pretty clear to me what happened. Someone brought it, noticed the sign that says no furniture donations, and decided that it wasn’t his problem.
It would be pretty much like that. Find random bodies everywhere.
Or just plain old burying a person too shallow. Not a huge problem now, but it’ll be a problem when coyotes and vultures and other scavengers dig the corpse up.
FR tho
It’s somehow three times the work to bury them a second time. Plus you always get stuck fixing during the day.
Remember kids, if you think you dug the hole deep enough, you didn’t.
It’s illegal almost everywhere in the US to have a “natural” burial. There are laws on containers, treatment, and where the deceased can be buried. Dead bodies, while very biodegradable are also toxic and tend to get dug up and parts drug around by animals, up rooted by trees, or dug up during construction after the property is bought out. I do agree that funeral homes are soulless vultures who fleece people in mourning though, the last “fuck you” from capitalism.
Are you sure natural burial is illegal?
Yes and no, it’s not a black and white issue. I didn’t really want to go all in on the topic because it’s Googleable. My grandpa recently passed and it’s very expensive, we were looking for alternatives. On a federal level natural burial is allowed. The states take matters into their own hands. Some require burial vaults, some require embalming, some require that natural burials only happen in very specific places, and some require a mix of those things. It’s doable but if they can squeeze money out of you through laws or extreme inconvenience, they will. It’s not as easy and just picking a spot and burying a loved one, in a lot of cases.
First of all, sorry to hear what you’re going through.
In regards to natural burial, my understanding is that it’s more legal than not, just that there’s regulations depending on where you live. It’s very rare that embalming is required by law. Burial vaults are typically required when embalming fluids are used to slow the spread of the fluids to waterways. Neither of these are considered part of a natural burial.
There’s a lot smoke and mirrors in the funeral industry that has led to wide misconceptions and outright misinformation. I asked if you were sure because the points you made are generally what a traditional burial funeral home would tell a client to steer them more towards their products. It’s awful that it’s become common for funeral homes to prey on those that are grieving. Absolutely despicable.
I hope y’all find a way that honors your grandpa without causing additional stress.
They are wrong. One of my family members works in the industry. Wood biodegradable caskets are perfectly legal in all states.
I’m not the guy that you’re responding too but I’ll add my anecdote.
There was a somewhat off his rocker dude in my hometown that lived with his mom, she died, he didn’t notify anyone, buried her on his land (owned 15-20 acres or so, nothing large) and didn’t tell anyone. A few months go by and she obviously misses doctor appointments, church, etc so police check in. Then the guy says “oh yeah she died, I buried her, no biggie”. Turns out he violated a few laws doing this so he got some light jail time, she got exhumed, investigated to make sure she wasn’t murdered, then buried in a graveyard.
I lived fairly close to all this being in the same county and learned that in Illinois at least, you can’t just bury your dead, you have to go through some processes.
That’s right, there’s is a process. You can’t just bury people without reporting the death and going through some sort of process. That’s a good bit different from an actual natural burial even if at face value he did bury her naturally lol. That’s wild. I’ve heard of that happening in my region in the southern Appalachians too.
Little of this is true. You can buy a wood casket, embalming is optional. Where you bury yes is regulated but maybe the rest of us don’t want to drink corpse water.
All water is corpse water, has been for billions of years.
Are you being pedantic or do you not know simple understanding that drinking water with dead bodies rotting in it is a bad idea?
Embalming is optional and always has been. You can purchase biodegradable caskets and again that was always been an option. Open caskets are by family request and often aren’t even an option.
I also saw Adam Ruins everything.
It turns out that humans and their pets are horrible for the environment because we’re just filled with chemicals from medication, cosmetics, and food. We’re not living our natural best anymore.
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In theory… Let’s say I bury my loved one far away from the city. Couple months later some hiker finds an arm that an animal pulled out. Police gets involved. They blame it on the cartels… At what point do I say anything, and if I do, how much trouble am I in?
“Asking for a friend”
Of course. It goes without saying.
It depends on your jurisdiction, it’s a felony in some places.
Nobody wants to talk about the fact that this is very clearly a former Pizza Hut?
F
A funeral home contains dead bodies? THE HORROR!
Well they’re normally not rotting
Typically the front doesn’t fall off.
When does the US get labelled as third world hellhole it actually is?
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
It’s one funeral home. The US certainly has its problem, but you should relax a bit.
This is the only nursing home with piles of corpses isn’t quite the argument in favour of your country not being a shit hole you think it is.
Just ignore the rampant school shootings, the racially motivated violence of police against citizens not breaking any laws and the wannabe autocratic dictator who incited a mob to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power that your justice system seems terrified of holding accountable.
If we ignore all of these “just one thing” issues then everything is fine.
nursing home with piles of corpses
Funeral home. People tend to come already dead in there.
“I’m not dead!”
“'Ere! He says he’s not dead!”
“Well now he’s dead, you whacked him on the head”
Go volunteer for campaigns you care about instead of complaining online. Much more productive.
I generally volunteer during the weekend while I am not working.
You are absolutely correct about the productivity. Alas, the point of my post wasn’t to be productive.
I do too. I’m up to a thousand now.
Fair enough! Lol many of the hours of my life aren’t aimed at being productive!
Don’t you get sick of yourself?
Now why I would I go and do something like that?
That would require the US to leave NATO and become Switzerland tier neutral.
Oh, you meant the racist way people who’ve never been to the “third world” say “third world.”
Lol what a moron.
The dude is so dumb he doesn’t even know that Donald Trump made America great again.
Lmfao, the rage!