• notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    ^OP, here’s the answer to your question

    (Intellectual laziness and uncritical acceptance of propaganda).

    School shootings are often carried out by juveniles who can’t lawfully get a gun.

    Cut this crap, this isn’t reddit. Most kids them get the guns from a relative or friend who obtained it legally and adequate storage laws reduce both suicides and homicides in kids. BTW, guns kill more kids now than cancer or car accidents, but only in the US. Your take is the best example of americans being unconcerned about preventable deaths.

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      3 hours ago

      Please let me reassure you, thats inaccurate. I do voluntary work in DA, work in the supportive sector and have personally funded related uni courses (DA being linked to crime perpetration, incels, firearm misuse etc). I’ve done considerable research into academic articles on lone actor grievance fuelled violence. I do far more than the average person does, I just have a different perspective… partly due to the academic research I’ve read.

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        2 hours ago

        Please let me reassure you, thats inaccurate…

        What’s inaccurate? I made like 5 statements.

        1. Guns kill more school-aged kids than motor vehicle accidents and cancer (i had to recreate the stats from the CDC wonder database myself excluding anybody over 18 because schmucks kept on complaining about the NEJM article including 19-year-olds, which apparently invalidated the data, except that it didn’t)

        2. Gun suicides are mostly committed using firearms from friends and relatives.

        3. If you look at UK’s homicide stats and the US’s (BJS) homicide stats you can tell that actually the homicide rate difference is driven by firearms.

        4. It’s a fact that it is much harder to kill someone including oneself without a gun.

        5. States that have gun storage laws have lower firearm mortality in kids.

        6. Blablabla on your trust me because I did some research. I’m in academia and published half a dozen (non-gun) epidemiology papers to date as a side hustle so I do know how to use the CDC databases. I’ve been forced to dive into the gun violence data because I’m really fed up with all the disinformation.

        7. What I have seen no supportive evidence for to date is “that training professionals to identify perpetrators” (“hardening schools?”) has any effect on school shootings.

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        Now let’s see your papers.

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          56 minutes ago

          I’m referring to the personal remarks you made about me, they were inaccurate. Do you retract them?