So they should just provide you a totally free service the costs them money because…? Are they still going to pay creators or do you want everyone to work for free to entertain you?
Petition the government to make a nationally owned and run video sharing site if that’s what you want, don’t be surprised when a capitalist company doesn’t give you everything you want for free
People are generally okay with some ads. It’s the quantity and aggressiveness and propensity for making the content worse by how they inject them into the videos that people don’t like. Yes, their infrastructure costs money to run. But their service is only possible because of the people who make videos for them and the people who watch them. It’s always been a give and take relationship. They’ve just been gradually deciding over the years to take more and more as their monopoly over a certain category of digital media has solidified and people have responded in the way people always do.
They knew what they were getting into when they acquired yt - or at least they should have known. I was a teen when yt started and even I could see how much of a money pit it would be. If G wants to throw wads of cash at it, fine. But I’m not propping up their fiscally-failed project with my own money.
You try to bait others into your poorly-crafted arguments when the core statement is stupid: there is no way yt would or will be profitable, full stop. That’s it. And G waited way, way too long to try and monitize or start a subscription model, and now they have a sea of users who will not pay because ‘it’s always been free’. Through and through G fucked themselves with yt. They only have themselves to blame for the situation they now find themselves in.
It’s an amazing video sharing site that’s made the world better in so many ways, especially for small businesses and individuals. Just the access to video guides on how to repair things was a game changer on its own, breaking content creators out of the traditional media monopoly has been absolutely huge.
All this and the only cost is they occasionally show adverts, it’s such a tiny tiny price
Something tells me that you either haven’t been on yt since 2010, or you block their ads yourself. When I watch family members use yt, it’s 3x 30-second back-to-back unskippable ads for a 5 minute video. If it’s a longer video like a show episode, several randomly placed ads interrupt the video. It pains me.
It was acceptable when they did a toast overlay for 10 seconds at the bottom of a video during the midsection, that you could also click away with no delay if it bothered you. Now it’s just like cable TV. (shoutout to yt TV which started at $35 and is now like $85 even if you don’t want 90% of the content)
I wouldn’t say it ‘made the world a better place’ either, as most content is redundant (lets have 75 short unboxing and first impression vids of this week’s new phone!) or just pointless (reaction videos, prank videos…). It’s a place for netizens to throw videos at and see if they get lucky.
I subscribe to 65 people, most of which have stopped producing content long ago (10y+). I have… 4 creators that I actually care about (2 of them I support through patreon, 1 via occasional merchandise, the other doesn’t have any means of external support). If they relocated, I’d follow them. But if the rest (~25 active-ish) suddenly stopped, eh it’s a bummer but no real loss.
Kinda akin to MySpace. Everyone in my circle knows about it and remembers it fondly in the early days, but now it’s not really maintaining a pulse. It’s just there, existing - and always craving more money.
I can agree with some of that but I really don’t think it’s akin to MySpace, I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who doesn’t use YouTube for something, sure there are a million Iphone unboxing videos but there’s also how to reach the awkward nut on my exact model car, literally everything I need to get started in my new hobby, and a million funny videos and interesting projects to relax to.
We might see something replace YouTube it it’s better at video sharing, there’s a way for creators to get paid and it can attract an audience but that’s a big ask.
The ads are just out of control. Back when it was one, maybe two, ads that were 10-20s long combined, I was willing to sit through it. Now there are almost always multiple ads concurrent, ads in the middle of the video, ads at the end of the video if it plays all thr way through, then ads again before the next video plays.
Bring it back to a single ad at the beginning of the video and give me a variety of ads so it isn’t the same 3 over and over, and I’ll sit and watch it.
You could build a successful service that brought in $1 million a month from happy users treated ethically, but there will always be an insatiable psycopath whispering “if we sold our user data, we could make a extra $100k each month”.
So one ad becomes two. Users are tracked and the information sold. Algorithms are created to make services as addictive as possible, because “one more video” turns into “4 more ads”.
However many apologists may post about poor, destitute Google being unable to feed their children because people aren’t watching enough ads, we’re absolutely correct to oppose that endless creeping.
There is always another sleazy way to manipulate people out of money. Companies need to learn to accept that their tens of millions of dollars profit are enough.
Difference is those other networks actually make content thats arguably seen as worth paying for. YouTube recycles user content and barely pays those users for it. Yes you can say that they deserve your money for servers and whatnot, but you can’t compare YouTube with those other services you mentioned and expect people to cry big crocodile tears…
This. I used to pay for ytp family plan, way back when now. I had to skip a month as money was that tight. When I went to resub, they wanted an extra ~$5 a month, or like 25%, for the same content and features. No advertised changes in revenue sharing amounts.
I just pay creators directly now, via patreon and ko-fi. I don’t care about yt, I care about a few creators. A few have stated that $1 is more than they make from yt per user per month. The revenue split is wild.
I don’t care about ytm. Cut the cost in half and give more to the people that are actually providing content. Right now yt in my eyes is greedy and their additional price hikes solidify that.
I know but … YouTube belongs to YouTube, and I’m sure google is already making tons of money selling/using the data of all their users so…
I would not have a problem with one or two ads, but they often put three or more annoying ads per video.
Man y’all really expect high quality, extremely diverse, and robust video streaming platform for free?!
YouTube gotta pay it’s bills somehow. Why y’all ok with paying Netflix/prime/hulu or whatever but not YouTube?!
YouTube don’t owe nobody free services. Get over it.
It’s google. They’re paying their bills just fine
Awww, poor little YouTube/Google/Alphabet, helpless and basically living on the streets, barely able to make ends meet.
literally laughs my fucking ass off
If it is so dire for the poor conglomerate, it could shutdown YouTube to cut costs.
crickets
That’s what I thought.
So they should just provide you a totally free service the costs them money because…? Are they still going to pay creators or do you want everyone to work for free to entertain you?
Petition the government to make a nationally owned and run video sharing site if that’s what you want, don’t be surprised when a capitalist company doesn’t give you everything you want for free
People are generally okay with some ads. It’s the quantity and aggressiveness and propensity for making the content worse by how they inject them into the videos that people don’t like. Yes, their infrastructure costs money to run. But their service is only possible because of the people who make videos for them and the people who watch them. It’s always been a give and take relationship. They’ve just been gradually deciding over the years to take more and more as their monopoly over a certain category of digital media has solidified and people have responded in the way people always do.
They knew what they were getting into when they acquired yt - or at least they should have known. I was a teen when yt started and even I could see how much of a money pit it would be. If G wants to throw wads of cash at it, fine. But I’m not propping up their fiscally-failed project with my own money.
You try to bait others into your poorly-crafted arguments when the core statement is stupid: there is no way yt would or will be profitable, full stop. That’s it. And G waited way, way too long to try and monitize or start a subscription model, and now they have a sea of users who will not pay because ‘it’s always been free’. Through and through G fucked themselves with yt. They only have themselves to blame for the situation they now find themselves in.
It’s an amazing video sharing site that’s made the world better in so many ways, especially for small businesses and individuals. Just the access to video guides on how to repair things was a game changer on its own, breaking content creators out of the traditional media monopoly has been absolutely huge.
All this and the only cost is they occasionally show adverts, it’s such a tiny tiny price
Something tells me that you either haven’t been on yt since 2010, or you block their ads yourself. When I watch family members use yt, it’s 3x 30-second back-to-back unskippable ads for a 5 minute video. If it’s a longer video like a show episode, several randomly placed ads interrupt the video. It pains me.
It was acceptable when they did a toast overlay for 10 seconds at the bottom of a video during the midsection, that you could also click away with no delay if it bothered you. Now it’s just like cable TV. (shoutout to yt TV which started at $35 and is now like $85 even if you don’t want 90% of the content)
I wouldn’t say it ‘made the world a better place’ either, as most content is redundant (lets have 75 short unboxing and first impression vids of this week’s new phone!) or just pointless (reaction videos, prank videos…). It’s a place for netizens to throw videos at and see if they get lucky.
I subscribe to 65 people, most of which have stopped producing content long ago (10y+). I have… 4 creators that I actually care about (2 of them I support through patreon, 1 via occasional merchandise, the other doesn’t have any means of external support). If they relocated, I’d follow them. But if the rest (~25 active-ish) suddenly stopped, eh it’s a bummer but no real loss.
Kinda akin to MySpace. Everyone in my circle knows about it and remembers it fondly in the early days, but now it’s not really maintaining a pulse. It’s just there, existing - and always craving more money.
I can agree with some of that but I really don’t think it’s akin to MySpace, I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who doesn’t use YouTube for something, sure there are a million Iphone unboxing videos but there’s also how to reach the awkward nut on my exact model car, literally everything I need to get started in my new hobby, and a million funny videos and interesting projects to relax to.
We might see something replace YouTube it it’s better at video sharing, there’s a way for creators to get paid and it can attract an audience but that’s a big ask.
The entitlement around here and on Reddit is insane. Just stop using the service if the ads are too much. Or pay for the subscription
The ads are just out of control. Back when it was one, maybe two, ads that were 10-20s long combined, I was willing to sit through it. Now there are almost always multiple ads concurrent, ads in the middle of the video, ads at the end of the video if it plays all thr way through, then ads again before the next video plays.
Bring it back to a single ad at the beginning of the video and give me a variety of ads so it isn’t the same 3 over and over, and I’ll sit and watch it.
That’s the way greed creeps.
You could build a successful service that brought in $1 million a month from happy users treated ethically, but there will always be an insatiable psycopath whispering “if we sold our user data, we could make a extra $100k each month”.
So one ad becomes two. Users are tracked and the information sold. Algorithms are created to make services as addictive as possible, because “one more video” turns into “4 more ads”.
However many apologists may post about poor, destitute Google being unable to feed their children because people aren’t watching enough ads, we’re absolutely correct to oppose that endless creeping.
There is always another sleazy way to manipulate people out of money. Companies need to learn to accept that their tens of millions of dollars profit are enough.
you watched a short video, now bend over and take it so daddy google can get another bonus, you entitled slut 🥵🥵
I have YouTube Premium because I also use YouTube Music, so the subscription fee is worth it for me.
But if you don’t use YouTube Music, it’s far too expensive and tough to justify the cost for YouTube alone.
Yep. That’s why I also pay for it. It’s a reasonable price for a valued service. Moaners gotta moan.
Difference is those other networks actually make content thats arguably seen as worth paying for. YouTube recycles user content and barely pays those users for it. Yes you can say that they deserve your money for servers and whatnot, but you can’t compare YouTube with those other services you mentioned and expect people to cry big crocodile tears…
Cry us a river. I will find ways to block ads and tell people how to do it
I wouldn’t object to paying if:
This. I used to pay for ytp family plan, way back when now. I had to skip a month as money was that tight. When I went to resub, they wanted an extra ~$5 a month, or like 25%, for the same content and features. No advertised changes in revenue sharing amounts.
I just pay creators directly now, via patreon and ko-fi. I don’t care about yt, I care about a few creators. A few have stated that $1 is more than they make from yt per user per month. The revenue split is wild.
I don’t care about ytm. Cut the cost in half and give more to the people that are actually providing content. Right now yt in my eyes is greedy and their additional price hikes solidify that.
People out here are really dick riding YouTube lmao.
They’re one of the largest companies in world: they are the bills
Meh if YouTube died tomorrow there would be a competitor the next day. Google bought YouTube back in the day and there are already like platforms.
YouTube is highly profitable already.
I know but … YouTube belongs to YouTube, and I’m sure google is already making tons of money selling/using the data of all their users so… I would not have a problem with one or two ads, but they often put three or more annoying ads per video.
Yes
😂 reading the replies to your comment is the fun part. Watching people lose their minds over a comment.