• Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
      822·
      1 year ago

      It’s for libs who want things to be marginally better temporarily rather than significantly better forever.

        • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
          22·
          1 year ago

          It’s got a lot of the same problems that twitter had before the Elon takeover. If it just ended there it would at least be a quick replacement but they had to throw in a FOMO invite system and to make matters even worse the CEO of bluesky has been sucking Elon’s toes on all his shitty decisions leading anyone with any level of analysis to see that it’s not going to be long before bluesky ends up just as bad as twitter is today.

  • lorty@lemmy.ml
    452·
    1 year ago

    Why not just use mastodon? Why is this better in any way? Twitter was already going to shit before Elon accelerated it.

    • rustydrd@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      13·
      1 year ago

      At least in my own bubble, many did switch to Mastodon. Those that didn’t are looking at other options, because the whole federation idea and things like home instances didn’t appeal to them or were simply too complicated (they want a service that at least hides its decentralized nature).

  • _lunar@lemmy.ml
    121·
    1 year ago

    What’s with Lemmy users doing free advertising for corporate social media like this? You’re already here, so you should know better, right?

    • rustydrd@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      31·
      1 year ago

      I mean, yeah, I’m on Lemmy and lots of other sites in the Fediverse, but why would that make me “know better”? Is my account supposed to give me some profound insight that sets me apart from the plebs on other sites? What I begin to know unfortunately is that the Fediverse and Lemmy in particular would be much more popular if it wasn’t so full of self-absorbed comments like this. The sole point of this post was to share something I found interesting that day, but if the mere mention of services that aren’t Lemmy provokes these kinds of comments, then I fear Lemmy will never make it out of obscurity. JFC

      • _lunar@lemmy.ml
        1·
        1 year ago

        No, having an account won’t give you insight, but what I’m getting at is that most of us are here to get away from the glaring flaws of corporate social media. Obviously I want as many people as possible to join the Fediverse, and I don’t see how advocating for or at the very least normalizing more the exact kind of corporate-controlled platforms that drove most of us here is going to help that.

        • rustydrd@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          Personally, when it comes to Lemmy’s user numbers, I’m more concerned about the condescending tone that keeps getting worse and worse on here than I am about people posting memes about the broader social media landscape. But we don’t have to agree on which of these is more or less helpful.

  • Izzy@lemmy.ml
    8·
    1 year ago

    Having an invite only service seems like a risky move. If you make the sign up process too difficult people will give up and never return.

    • pixelscript@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      At this stage that’s kind of the point. It’s an intentional demand-curbing measure. The number of people trying to switch to BlueSky outstrips hosting infrastructure. They’re scaling up slowly and carefully.

      I presume once it’s out of open beta and they have the infra they need to launch properly, it will stop being invite ony.

      • Izzy@lemmy.ml
        3·
        1 year ago

        Understandable, but at that point it may be too late as people will have cemented themselves with some of the competition such as Mastodon or wherever it may be. At least for me I am very unlikely to use BlueSky at this point or in the future because I was unable to go to the site when I had heard of it and sign up.

        • pixelscript@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          I think those of us that treat social media services this way are a minority in the grand picture. If BlueSky continues to be effective, network effect will pull in a steady stream of users, including ones that may have balked before.

          It is poising itself to be a 1:1 drop-in replacement for Twitter. Federated services like Mastodon aren’t that (and aren’t trying to be).

          I wholly believe that the majority of Twitter users have no interest in federated platforms as alternatives. By comparison, platforms like Mastodon feel vaguely like Twitter but more fractured and isolated. Everyone was on Twitter. Comparatively no one is on Mastodon. Discovery is awful and micromanaging instances and subscriptions is tedious busywork. “Why can’t it just be all in one convenient place, like on Twitter? This is so stupid and complicated,” I expect most would complain.

          Federated platforms are loved by us because we value the fine control and we like putting in effort to curate our feeds. The complexity is the appeal. But I think it’s negative appeal to the type of person who has gotten accustomed to an algorithm doing all of that for them, and I think that’s most people. You can use federated platforms out of the box and they’ll “just work” without all the tinkering, but it will be very bland and vapid. It only becomes great when you put in work to make it great for yourself.

          The thing BlueSky seems to be promising is that big, monolithic platform that Twitter was and most people want. And I think they’re the only notable player in that game, so they’ll completely corner that market. As long as they don’t trip over any footguns (and I don’t believe making the beta invite-only is one of them), I believe they’re going to succeed greatly.

      • Izzy@lemmy.ml
        1·
        1 year ago

        So did Gmail, but it was a different time without any good competition.

  • makeasnek@lemmy.ml
    7·
    1 year ago

    use mastadon or nostr, they are actually decentralized. Bluesky is just twitter 2.0 with the same broken incentives and the same broken business model.

    • ghen@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      1 year ago

      Yeah honestly, let’s have competition between Mastodon servers instead. My current favorite is dice.camp for tabletop fans.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
    83·
    1 year ago

    I find it funny how the only problem people see with Twitter is that the wrong oligarch owns it. The real issue is with reliance on privately owned social spaces. Corporations shouldn’t be in charge of how people communicate with each other.