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    As “innocent” as they are portrayed, the hypocrisy is the least of their problems. Their abuse of both people and animals is extremely widespread and rarely talked about.

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        Man just calling out the rape doesn’t do it justice.

        They rape and “freshen up” the gene pool now and then. They rape to fix problems caused by rape.

        If you don’t feel uncomfortable with that thought in your head, then add to it the puppy mills.

        They are not a holy people.

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      The man they mention in this article (Eli Yoder) regularly brings it up and confronts it.

      He interviewed a woman one time who was raped by her brothers and she got in trouble right along with them for being “tempting” and not modest enough.

      The abuse started when she was a small child.

      They don’t go to the police when they catch people, they take them to the elders and punish them within the group. They usually just get shunned for a bit.

      Wives regularly get blamed when their daughters are abused by their husbands. “You should do your wifely duties so he isn’t tempted.”

      I’ve heard some wild stories watching this guy.

      He really works hard to bring education and information to people who are trapped in that reality. He also provides resources and support when people want to escape.

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    I thought Jesus preached forgiveness. Why isn’t that lesson being followed?

    Oh it’s because religion is bullshit and its followers are hypocrites

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    I once called a guy about something he was advertising in the classifieds. I called him on Easter Sunday. He answered, but said he needed a second before he could talk.

    Turns out he was Amish. I called an Amish man on the phone… on Easter Sunday. He answered… while he was in church.

    I called an Amish man on his cellphone, which he answered in the middle of Easter mass, to talk about his classified ad.

    This was the most tame interaction I’ve had with Amish folk. They’re fucking hardcore.

    You know that scene in Parks and Rec where Ron Swanson tips a jug of moonshine up onto his shoulder and pours it down his gullet? I’ve fucking seen a bearded guy with a big hat and no buttons do that IRL.

    The Amish know how to party.

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        Yeah, the dude I called lived in a much more progressive sect. He was actually the “cab driver” for his community, which is why he had a cellphone. He also had a computer and a very rudimentary website for the stuff he was selling in the classifieds.

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    Sufferers of domestic violence with hidden phones is a far more important issue.

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    Technology is bad! AI sucks! Video games make kids violent! The world was better before we had all this screen time!

    -Posted from my iPhone

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    This is weird because lots of Amish communities let people have cell phones, you just can’t use it in the house.

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      Also there are a lot of different sects of Amish. On one extreme there are the Amish who use the internet with a few restrictions, and on the other are the Amish who won’t touch anything that uses electricity. It’s a broad society. They’re pretty much all kinda shitty to women, but that’s diverse too.

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    lmao not so tight knit if a bunch of people have phones and you dont know about it

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    Shunning is a cult practice, this is one of the reasons I strongly dislike the Amish

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    lol anyone that has experience with Amish in Ohio knows phones are everywhere.

    Hell I saw an amish dude ripping down the street on a one wheel just a few months ago. Some use side by sides and tractors. They also have a battery distributor with their own name on the label and a website, Miller Tech.

    It depends on the community but in my experience it’s not much of an issue at all these days.

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      I’ve lived near a few Amish communities, and they’re all a little different on what tech is present but it’s safe to say they all have some.

      Generally you’ll see electricity and phone lines to a special building, they won’t all have it but a few will. Lately they’ve ditched the landlines for cell phones, and they’ll have their spouses put parental blocks on them.

      The philosophy doesn’t really change much, it’s not about rejecting technology, it’s about being self sufficient, and not relying on the outside world for anything. The phones are mostly for business. But they’ll use them for Internet to get to Facebook and YouTube too.

      It’s also worth noting that the horse and buggy thing is pretty common but I’ve never met an Amish adult who didn’t at last have access to a pickup truck.

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        Yep here there’s a whole niche business for people willing to drive Amish to/from job sites, stores, hunting areas etc

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          Most of those business are Amish owned and run. Guy I knew had three or four giant pickup trucks, generally he was towing pigs to slaughter but he would cart anything they asked him to. They didn’t trust the English to handle their business as far as they could throw them.

          It’s worth pointing out that the guy with the cell phone and pickup trucks also believed the world was flat. He was not a flat earther the way we think of one, and wouldn’t know what that meant if you asked him. It just happens to say in the Bible that the world has 4 corners, and so it must. As, according to him and almost every person in Amish communities everywhere, the Bible is literally and 100% truth.

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    Shunning happens with all society now, for less than this. Except it’s called ghosting. Or “cutting off” of family members. It’s shameful and no different, except we do it whenever we want, for whatever reason seems justified to us, without caring for the party we are doing it to. At least with Amish, everyone knows the rules.

    We can’t point at another section of society until we fix ourselves.

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          That is in no way the same as an entire community shunning you and cutting you off from all of your family and friends. That is not society shunning you. That’s a person doing it.

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    DOUBT. This article was written on stereotypes.

    Have you been to a Mennonite community? Phones are no secret. They are not technophobes. They just do not adopt frivolous tech without considering how it would benefit society. Cars, for example, were determined to be mostly a tool for leaving home, which many old order communities thought would be damaging for their community.

    Phones are not so. Phones let you contact a loved one in an emergency. Many people, depending on the community, will have one, and there’s no shame about it. This article just focuses on a couple kids, but paints it like a widespread thing.

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      Amish and Mennonite are not the same thing. The Amish are much more restrictive about technology than Mennonites.

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      Headlines says Amish, so a phone should not be accepted. I stayed with a Mennonite before and she said Amish are no technology, then I think there was Old Order, which accepted technology up to like the Model T cars but nothing further, then Mennonites, which were essentially the same “group” (religion?) but the most advanced technologically, accepting all technology.