• HeChomk@lemmy.world
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    Literally impossible to enforce. Any business worth a damn uses vpns. Blocking such would be bad for business. Also, ssl vpns are as far as I’m aware, indistinguishable from regular https traffic.

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    This kind of nonsense is only mandated out of fear, but in reality it’s not only colossally stupid, but also really difficult to enforce. Any proper business uses one. Anyone who wants privacy, and ad network anonymity uses one. There’s plenty of other uses people would want one, obviously

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    I’ve taught my daughter to use a VPN here in the U.S. There’s “Kids Online Safety Bill” making it through congress, and if it passes, kids won’t be able to access all kinds of websites. Porn, yes, but also just websites about LGBT+ stuff which are perfectly safe for kids. As I have a queer daughter, I want to make absolutely sure she can access those sites if she needs them.

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      May I ask how would the “Kids Online safety bill” differentiate between an underage user and adult? I’m not from the US so that’s why I don’t know

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        I don’t know. From what I can see, that hasn’t been made clear yet. I am guessing, like porn in several states, IDs will be required to access things like TikTok or maybe even YouTube because it requires them to filter content for minors.

        There’s a reason anti-LGBTQ bigots love it.

        But even if that doesn’t happen, it allows for parental surveillance, and I want her to know that I don’t have the option to do that to her even if I wanted to. It should go beyond mere trust.

        If she VPNs to Canada, none of those issues will be things she has to care about.

      • OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world
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        Oh it’s such a fun and novel and not at all dystopian idea they’ve come up with.

        Content requiring an adult will just require some kind of identification, surely you can’t be against providing your ID to any website that hosts adult content or that website checking/accessing/logging with a national archive that you visited said website, right?

        So far, no concrete things put forward, but all of them seem to be related to an ID-required system.

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    It’s not a total ban of VPNs, I went to read a bit on the subject (easier since I’m french), it’s just that some politicians came up with a few amendments relative to the bill called “SREN” which very literally translates to “Securing and regulating the digital space”. As you may guess that bill also ticks the “child porn” box as a reason why it came to existence.

    One amendment proposes to ban mobile VPNs that do no comply with European or french regulations in the context of app stores. So it’s only on mobile, nothing about desktops.

    Of course it’s inapplicable in practice.

    Several amendements already failed due to backlash, one was about preventing people from posting on social networks if they use a VPN.

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      Yeah was also just listening to a podcast about this. So yeah not a straight total ban. But from what I heard, it would ban people from using VPNs outside of Europe, which obviously is not OK.

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    The UK also recently tried banning VPNs. It simply isn’t possible. However, it’ll make prosecuting dissidents and people with good opsec a lot easier because they can just say “well you might not have anything incriminating on your hard drives but you DO have a VPN client” and use that to get a tiny victory against someone who would otherwise go free.

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      Russia, China & UAE are quite successful with blocking VPN’s. I wouldn’t be so sure that in near future UK or any EU country censorship or heavy restrict VPN’s.