I mean if he chose to communicate his preference, that’s a problem. But “Vote for educated leaders” shouldn’t be exactly controversial. If you’re angry, is it because you know the ppl that you voted for are uneducated?
Well that is where societies get to. Being educated or uneducated becomes equivalent to a political stance. There are plenty of examples of educators getting murdered by governments, sometimes en masse.
What’s more concerning is when a society is populated by people who have take the most facile understanding of a position, and then go about confidently as if they understand it. Like, say, if a news article has a rage porn headline and then people don’t read it to understand what actually was going on but make comments on websites as if there was no nuance to the subject whatsoever. … Very concerning.
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sigh the massacres were in side streets, not the square. The students themselves left under the threat of being removed violently once it became clear that the hardline faction in the CCP had won out over the reformists.
Saying things like “Students were massacred on the square” only gives the CCP ammunition for their “see what kind of vile propaganda the west spreads, they’re making shit up” narrative.
Why is it an important distinction? Massacre is massacre whether it’s on a square or on side streets.
Because of what I already said. Also even if the CCP wasn’t using that kind of talk for internal propaganda it’s still nice to be accurate, you know?
It just seems like a small detail that wouldn’t actually benefit their propaganda at all.
It’s a thing that every Chinese knows, that the students weren’t massacred. They were the main force behind the whole thing, it’s not a minor detail. The collective memory, the meaning of the whole thing would be vastly different had they been massacred. It’s more or less a symbol and reminder that you’ll be “invited for a tea” before anything actually bad happens, that shit is oppressive yes but it’s not cultural revolution times where it was nigh impossible to know how you’re even supposed to act, where the limits are. They’re still fuzzy but they’ll be explained to you over a stern cup of tea nowadays.
It may be a small detail from your POV, it isn’t from the Chinese one.
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The way I read is “The CCP didn’t massacre a bunch of uneducated citizens in Tienanmen square”. Because, you know, the context was “educated people get slaughtered”.
He said, “Next time vote for someone who is well-educated so you don’t have to go through this again.” I agree with him, and moreover I think teachers should be allowed to express themselves because everything is political. But I can’t in good conscience argue that this was a politically-neutral statement. In particular, the words “Next time” are saying very plainly that he doesn’t think it went well this time. This is a political argument against the current ruling government.
he made a response on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU09ODTvMqg
He said he meant to be politically neutral.
This thread is fucking chilling in its ironic self righteousness.
If only there were an article we could read that makes this clear…
It’s so incredibly sad how adults need to be reminded and told to vote for people that have a background with real education. I can’t believe people don’t care about education when it comes to voting for someone to be put in your government. I feel sorry for those people who don’t. You know it’s the people who don’t that have lives that revolve around politics and consume it everyday
Religion and education are two things that violate the law of supply and demand. The less of either that you have, the less you want.
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Sure, let’s not vote for the person that dedicated years on studying history, sociology, economics and political science (or “social studies” if you prefer). Let’s instead vote for the person that stepped on everyone’s heads to make sure he and his company are successful! What could go wrong? Running a country is exactly the same as running a factory, no?
And I’m sorry that so many universities are heavily left-leaning. I’m sure that if the right stops burning books at every corner there would be more right-leaning universities (tho politics should always stay out of classes in my opinion).
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This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen on lemmy yet.
This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen on lemmy yet.
Well the first part is spot on…
Actually, there are numerous trades and other careers where you dont go to college and do very well.
The second part, not so much…
But please keep voting for people with degrees in History because thats working out awesomely.
Aren’t most lawyers anyways?
Aren’t most lawyers anyways?
Elaborate?
IIRC most of Congress started as lawyers. Could be wrong.
IIRC most of Congress started as lawyers.
So apologies for not getting this, but what does that have anything to do with my comment that you originally replied to?
Does the word “left” mean science to you?
No. It means ‘science, bitch’
Do you think the guy running his own lawn mowing business would be a better surgeon than the girl who spent 25 years in STEM studies, medical school, and residency?
You imbeciles think being a representative/senator/president is like volunteering at the after school bake sale. And that’s why we have such shitty politicians.
Good luck with that lawn mowing guy trying to remove your colon cancer.
Medicine has a clear goal- politics do not. That is one of many reasons that good governance should not be looked for only in academia. A really simple example, if I run for senate should I campaign on policies that help my state but cause diffuse harm nationally or should I campaign on policies that may cause specific harm to my state but are good nationally? I’m not asking which you would win with, I’m asking which is being a good senator? Should I respect the will of their constituents if it conflicts with my personal morality? If I’m a member of group which feels underrepresented in or betrayed by higher-level academia should members of that group vote in a member of academia regardless? Even within a technocracy, ignoring voters, there still has to be aligned goals with the “gatekeepers” to be included in the technocracy- otherwise they will see your conclusions and deem you wrong, unfit. People can be fully informed, acting in 100% good faith, and equally intelligent and still disagree on moral principles and therefore will strongly differ in conclusions.
“Medicine has a clear goal - politics do not. “
This has got to be the dumbest reply and rationalization I’ve ever heard. They are both professions. And best served by educated professionals. You think there’s no subjectivity in medicine? lol.
I think medicine has a goal of health of a patient. That is generally clearly defined. Of course there is ambiguity over proper treatment, but generally for majority of medicine there is clear goals.
I think politician has a goal of health of a nation. FTFY.
Your argument is stupid. Stop making yourself look the same.
Why does health of a nation matter? I don’t agree. And what does health of a nation mean?
I’d prefer a politician who let’s a nation collapse but greatly improves the quality of life of many. (Like what Gorbachev could’ve been.)
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Tell me you don’t know what the work “educated” means in a truly demented political rant without admitting you don’t know what the word means.
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Well, you did what he asked
Yeah no the whole “Universities are leftist brainwashing stations” is the most bullshit take I’ve heard and almost always comes from people who haven’t been within 15 feet of a college.
Literally most of the shit I was taught was literally neoliberal capitalist-friendly stuff mandated by the states requirements for the degree. A ton of it was helpful in terms of building effective critical thinking skills but if anything the only instructors that ever introduced any sort of political slant was usually the right wingers or religious people. Literally had an instructor intentionally frame parts of our philosophy class in a way that made more pro-religious philosophy appear to be the correct answer. Students that spoke out and tried to say they favored things like determinism for instance were often shut down by the instructor trying to make us look at things like free will in a way that was more favorable to religion. Later found out after the class the dude was a former pastor.
And even the few openly left-leaning instructors were usually just generic neoliberal democrat voting cut-outs that for some reason Republicans and other fringe lunatics pretend are leftist-communist-extremist-goblins.
The vast majority of instructors just simply didn’t even make their politics affiliation apparent. There’s tons I couldn’t even remotely gauge just simply because they only taught and talked about class material.
. You know and I know that’s exactly what he means
It means it pisses off GOP’s
We have found Tom McDonald’s Lemmy account
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I definitely read the headline and thought “please don’t be my state again”
Can you explain why?
(I am not from US)
The US republican/trump/conservative (known collectively as Nazi’s) followers are historically against education. These people are currently promoting a religious inquisition to eliminate books and curriculum in schools that they feel do not align with their hate based religious and intolerant beliefs. Teachers and librarians are being physically threatened and fired for refusing to comply with the book bans and twisted educational mandates. The politicians that populate the groups I mentioned are not considered smart themselves (like stating wind generators were a threat because they would use up all the wind eventually) so advising children to vote for educated politicians threatens their one and only goal, the retention and accumulation of more power.
Oh damn. Indian politicians are also very uneducated but they don’t usually go against education
Funny thing: in early years of Russian Federation “red state” meant southern pro-communism pro-education/healthcare/pension/science funding state.
Luckily this one is in India
Quirk of a polarized political system thanks to FPTP-voting. Sooner or later even the lamest, most basic stuff suddenly turns political and “controversial” while billionaires laugh all the way to the bank. It’s by design and what happens when groups of individuals are allowed to hoard obscene wealth and use it to rule the masses.
I mean - I dislike financial inequality as much as the next person, but attributing the failing education system and polarization to “billionaires” will get us nowhere.
The vast majority of politicians, educators, propagandists and just insecure people are not billionaires. Don’t take away their responsibility, they are not mindless babies.
Except that the money flowing to the top 1% are the result of politics. The tax cuts which funnel money out of the public coffers and into billionaires’ pockets also require cuts to services, like education. Polarization is what’s required to motivate voters to continue to vote against their own interests. They’re very much connected.
The question then is why the 1% have such influence. Why is lobbying even legal when politicians are supposed to represent the people. Why are politicians allowed to trade stocks with inside information on policy. Why do we allow money to corrupt democracy.
Other countries have the problems of first past the post (and I’m it’s biggest critic) but I don’t think politics is as polarising like a team sport as in the USA, and monetary incentives like lobbying are illegal in most countries
I agree. In general, lobbying is a much bigger issue than the “billionaires”. Lobbying exists at all levels. You can have a dinner with a local politician for a very affordable fee ($3-5K), and meet the former or the future president (maybe even the current) for $200-300K. Lobbying is everywhere, it’s not limited to billionaires.
Everything is connected if you look deep enough. People who drive rolling coal cars and hate “the libs” are responsible for their action. Choosing an ideology, watching propaganda, immersing oneself in hate are all actions. Sure, billionaires are having an outsized impact on the world. That’s power. In general - power does corrupt. We, the people, have to take responsibility for our actions, not expect billionaires to stop growing and exercising their influence. It’s easy to blame “the billionaires” for making someone a shitty person.
BJP wants to turn india into hindu theocracy.
There’s absolutely a trend/coordinated effort among the global right wing to basically turn every country into Russia, strong dictator, highly nationalistic, one religion forced on everybody, and much much more. It’s happening in America, Europe, Canada, and all of their media and influencers are working together to push the same “values” on everyone, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, racist, and anti-intellectual, anything “woke”.
It’s time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies, that’s the real world war we’re going to have to go through in order to stop them from holding us back and to fix this world’s problems.
It’s time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies
Democrats 🤝I.N.D.I.A alliance
Democrats and Progressives are just America’s portion, here’s a big list of the other folks we should be allied with:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_left-wing_political_parties
However use caution, far too many of these also act as or are funded as controlled opposition, similar to how the American Green Party is generally funded by the Republicans and Russia.
Edit: removed the colloquialism that seemed to be confusing people.
old list
is latest version available.
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You are almost correct. But Putin doesn’t want Russia to be USSR, he wants to be in power entire his life and after death. He wants personal autocracy or dictatorship where KGB helps keep him and his oligarchs in power. Even war he started is a mean to throw a wall on people’s heads.
People who want Russia to be USSR do it not because they want to be “powerful and feared”, but because in USSR there was decent healthcare outside of Moscow, school near their home wasn’t closed by Sobyanin and there was no war with Ukraine. Because in USSR there was “peace to world” instead of “we will turn world to radioactive ash”(AFAIR Kiselev’s quote, Putin’s propagandist), “glory to science and production” instead of warmongering and destruction.
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You are telling me how he wants to be perceived, not who he is - old KGB dictator who forgot to take his medications. The only things he competing in with Stalin: cult of personality and political assasinations.
Interesting article…
exposed to the fallout between 1949 and 1956
1956 is 3 years after Stalin’s death.
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None of that makes DeSantis and Trump and co. Simp Putin any less, the same with Marine LePen in France and various others.
Now I know to avoid Unacademy.
If “vote for someone educated” has you acting like this, you’re a buffoon.
Brother, he’s not saying he’s going to avoid that teacher, he’s saying he’s going to avoid the place that fired him for saying “Vote for educted leaders”. Don’t be a buffoon.
Another teacher also came out supporting him: https://newsroompost.com/india/babita-mam-calling-for-vote-to-educated-leader-goes-viral-after-karan-sangwan/5272032.html
She might also get fired unfortunately due to the pressure of andh-Bhakts (Blind-nationalists)
How dare you call conservatives buffoons! What if they see your hurtful comment and have someone read it to them?
Miss. He’s avoiding it now because they fired the guy
It feels like we’ve been devolving as a species for the last 20 years or so, I’m pretty tired of living in interesting times.
Last 20 years are very boring time. This is how stagnation works.
Shame on him what if I want stupid dumb idiot leaders?
Then you’re in luck!
Always has been
You are in your element
Teacher fired for promoting education. Got it.
He’s clearly pushing the anti republican agenda… SMH
I guess what Lemmy has in common with Reddit is that nobody reads the article. This happened in India.
half of lemmy users are reddit migrants
Yeah, I could certainly picture some right wing nut complaining it’s an attack on their conservative/Christian values
This happened in India. Right wing nut, sure, but probably not Christian.
That’s why I used a slash, but yeah, I unfortunately assumed USA
Yea, I agree with his statement but it was implied who he was talking about and when you add his social media posts showing a bias to a specific political party it was a no brainer and why would ask your students in a class to not vote for a particular political party.
While I agree that leaders should be educated. It’s not a teachers place to tell any student what or who to vote for.
