• Biggles@lemmy.myserv.one
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    This is the same crime that Michael Cohen got three years in prison for. A crime he committed solely to benefit Trump. It makes no sense.

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      It makes perfect sense when you realize that the US punishment system is divided into two different systems.

      You’re either in the system for those who happen to be rich, and are supporting the system, in which case you automatically get released with a slap on the wrist.

      Or you’re rich or poor and happened to disagree with the status quo. In that instance you’ll be fed to the punishment meat grinder, having “the fictitious and imaginary book of laws” thrown at you for the harshest punishment that the US punishment system can imagine through “precedent.”

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    The rule of law means that no one is above the law, not even the president. If the president is above the law then we do not have the rule of law. Being labeled a felon is the idea of a punishment, but since there are no consequences to this sentencing there is no punishment.

    At least imposing a fine would have been consistent with precedent. At that point it would have been an issue with our laws being to lenient. That would have been a much more easily remedied problem than doing away with the rule of law, a founding concept of modern western civilization.

    The rule of law was dead when the Supreme Court ruled presidents have immunity for core constitutional responsibilities and presumed immunity for official acts in Trump v. United States. This is another nail in the coffin.

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      I have never heard of “unconditional discharge” being a possible sentence for a crime. It’s like they made it up just for Trump.

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      Yeah it’s crazy. To me, respect for the presidency keeping it crime-free. People committing crimes in pursuit of the presidency or while in its office should be harshly prosecuted, not let off.

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    Prosecutors had recommended the sentence, saying in court Friday, “we must be respectful of the office of the presidency” and Trump’s pending inauguration.

    What a fucking joke.

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      You respect the office by holding the criminal to account. This is quite the opposite. But hey, what else should we expect from Merrick Garland, that do nothin’, hand wringin’, Republican-lite son of a removed.

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    “A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

    • Alexander Hamilton

    Clown country

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      I understand the feeling, but I think this outcome is probably the best we could hope for, given the situation. If he had tried to impose fines or imprisonment, one of the higher courts would probably have intervened and the sentencing would never have happened.

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      Not true. Their hands were tied. Same with the prosecutors. This was their best.

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        Yeah bullshit. This is something worth ending your career over. The judge should have done the right thing and accepted the consequences.

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        That’s fine. If they want to start a war over their snowflake feelings let them. Giving away our freedoms to avoid a fight just guarantees someone can take all of your freedoms.

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    Let this be glaring proof to anyone who would otherwise deny it: Our democracy is broken and no longer functions for the benefit of the People. This is why revolutions happen. This is why we cannot trust our own government any longer. I’m officially done. Electoral politics has proven to be a gigantic joke, and I’m not playing anymore.

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      I know it’s decades too late, but it’s still cathartic to finally see a lot of people waking up to the neolib/Republican good cop/bad cop con job routine warring over social wedges as they rob us blind since Reagan.

      This country was dying before Reagan from our greed disease, and his administration killed any hope it had left. We need a new framework, this one is necrotic.

      Revolution! Pain for us means a future for our children they currently don’t have. Not a life worth living anyway.

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      If this is the lesson a majority of people learn we will be ruled by fascists for more than the next four years. Refusing to exercise power is self-defeating and will not inspire any revolutions. If we let things get worse they will get worse, because there is no floor to how bad things can get.

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      Agreed. This is why I’m going to vote Democrats and downvote anyone who suggests third party candidates

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        Surely the Neoliberals next signature piece of legislation they won’t shut up about for decades as a “victory” won’t be a heritage foundation created plot to further enshrine for profit insurance leeches into healthcare! Hopefully!

        I wonder how they’ll move to the right next cycle. “OK ok, we now support the death camps, but God damn it, line in the sand, those death Camps will have Taco Tuesdays! Vote Blue no matter who!”

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    And here we are. Folks, I am not a lawyer but precedence proves that running for president makes you immune to both federal prosecution and state penalties.

    I suggest everyone who wishes to commit a crime (or has already committed a crime) to register your PAC as well as donate to the GOP (like $10) just for good measure. You will need to report to the FEC and your local state electoral board your finances but eh fuck it. It’s not like they are going to punish you for not doing it right?

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        Yup I’ve been saying this as well. He’s too young to actually run for election but it would be a great way to test just how bullet proof (no pun intended) being a presidential candidate is to criminal actions.

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      To be fair, the judge specified that it was because he won reelection, not because he was a candidate

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        He used the campaign as an excuse many times in court filings and the courts gave him way more leeway to “avoid” appearance of “bias” once it became apparent he was the lead in primaries and after his nomination. And now that we know a state can’t even block a candidate for committing insurrection during his last administration, there’s no excuse not to run him since you could just argue age bias is wrong and there’s no actual mechanism to stop under 35’s from running anyway.

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    Basically the judge vacated the decision. Tell me all the “but ackuallys” you want, but the net effect is that the judge unilaterally overturned the decision of the jury.

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    Don’t worry, this will appear 4th on the news sites after we discuss transgender issues and how “triggered” Musk is for the 6th time