Men overran a job fair for women in tech — Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs::The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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    1 year ago

    Every article I have seen on this seems to be putting the blame on the men, as if men are in some kind of hivemind and plotted as a group to do this or some shit.

    It’s obviously the organizers fault, if they wanted it to be women only, they should’ve done something to ensure that.

    And if they cant do something to ensure that for legality reasons, than the entire conference shouldn’t exist in the first place or they organizers need to suck it up and accept that this is what success looks like.

    A bunch of men came to listen to women talk about tech.

    Isn’t that what you’d want?

    There’s a point where we need to transition from "safe place for " to “Okay the normal places are safe places now”

    You see this with gay bars, in my city almost every gay bar has effectively shut down and gone out of business, because now every bar is a “gay bar”, in that gay people just… go to any bar and hang out and hook up. There’s no longer a desire for the exclusive place.

    Let me frame the title in some other way, to perhaps show what I am talking about:

    In a sign of feminism’s progress, today hundreds of men flocked to a women run tech convention, to sit in chairs and listen to a bunch of women talk about tech, and apply for positions to work under women CEOs and CTOs, without so much as batting an eye and no one making fun of the idea of a man working as a subordinate to a woman

    Like seriously, isn’t this literally a big sign that feminism has made massive strides? Could you fucking imagine thirty years ago something like this happening?

    Imagine a bunch of dudes in the 80s or 90s, flocking to get hired and work under women, flocking to pack the seats and sit in rapt attention as a woman stepped on stage to talk about breakthroughs in tech.

    Why is this being framed as “ooga booga, men bad for wanting to listen to women for a change” lol

    Do you want to piss all these dudes off and have them not want to work for women? Do you want to go back to guys making fun of women for wanting to be a CEO of a company? Do you want to shame men for not caring about the gender of a prospective boss/leader?

    Cuz it really kind of sounds like thats what these articles are trying to frame this occurrence as when they blame the men for this and not the organizer

    Shame on you men! Shame! Everyone knows you’re supposed to stand outside the convention, jeering and making fun of women, standing in front of the news crews and talking about how women outta stay in the kitchen. Definitely not packing the seats to listen to them talk lol, that’d be crazy!

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        1 year ago

        I dunno why does anyone bother writing anything, it’s posted up here on lemmy, Im tired of seeing people villainize a bunch of dudes who most likely showed up to support women in tech as being the bad guys.

        Like dont we want dudes sitting in chairs in the audience, listening to a woman CEO talk about tech?

        And if you dare try to be like “they took up seats that women could’ve sat in” the answer isn’t exclude men, the answer is well buy more seats then so everyone can fit into the audience, cuz clearly this lady is popular as hell

  • WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world
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    Waiting for the inevitable man to come in and go “But how are we supposed to unify if we keep dividing ourselves?” or “You’d have a fit if men complained about women attending a male only event.”

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      What I draw more issue with is the articles framing this as the dudes fault, and not the organizers.

      Like yeah perhaps the dudes are tone deaf, but it’s not like they all made a several hundred member secret discord channel to unite and all attend this event as a unified effort to fuck over the women attending or… something?

      Men don’t like being referred to as some kind of hivemind anymore than women do. I highly doubt this was some kind of… concerted effort by the men attending.

      What instead happened was a fuck tonne of men decided “Oh hell yeah, tech conference. And it’s women led, thats cool, I wanna hear about the new tech and new jobs and see what people are innovating on, maybe network a bit” and they attended in droves.

      Which I dunno about you, but that sounds like feminism is winning lol. In an actual world where feminism was losing, the tech conference would be a ghost town as men snub it because they don’t wanna listen to women talk about tech and would make fun of it, jeering and laughing about how silly it is, women thinking they can be CEOs.

      And I’m pretty thankful we live in the universe where countless dudes lined up to sit and listen in crowds to women talk to them about tech…