TLDR: i complain about samsung’s flagship and newer android.

I use samsung flagship phone and it’s crazy, how unable I am to use full potential of my phone, just because I don’t want to log in to google neither to samsung. I try to use F-droid and Aurora Store whenever possible, but its so bad experience…for maps I use Organic Maps, but google forces it to be installed specifically from Google Play Store to work with Android Auto, so I have to log in every time there is an update. Most of games won’t work, because they require being signed-in to google, and thats actually kinda weird…before my phone now I had an old Galaxy S5 Android 6.0 and games there didn’t complain that much as here on Android 14 (so the newer android the less privacy you get, while them all companies “focus on privacy”, bullshit liars), samsung requires signing-in to usd like 1/10 of the flagship features…It’s so sad, as I love samsung’s quality, phone is really outstanding, overall all samsung products are very good quality, but pushing these fucking accounts is convincing me not to buy samsung’s flagship anymore. We need to finally unite and make some alternative to those close-sourced bloatware, as phone industry is nowhere near to being as free as desktop industry. I feel more free using Windoze than those fucking " smart"phones. Really if you have to buy new smartphone and are into privacy, think twice before you buy samsung…phone itself is great, but software side is a nightmare.

  • Joël de Bruijn@lemmy.ml
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    25 days ago

    All in all my conclusion after experiencing the same: Samsung wants to replicate the same level of surveilance Google has. So with a Samsung phone I need to degoogle AND to desamsung …

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    25 days ago

    As someone who’s used android literally since the first android phone was released, it’s a massive disappointment how locked down and enshittified it’s become.

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    24 days ago

    I bought a phone for something like $20 which is very simple. It has no vibration. It has 65 KB of onboard storage. And it is not a smartphone. I don’t even take it with me most of the time, because I know that nobody will call me anyway, so why bother. I use it very rarely. The most usage I have from it is calling, flashlight and maybe as a clock once every so often, since I have many actual clocks.

    On the computer I use GNU / Linux. And I have no complaints.

    So I don’t understand why even bother with a smartphone in the first place?

    PS: I would love to try Pinephone or Librem5 though.

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    25 days ago

    I am surprised it took you this long.

    The next step in this evolutionary thinking is simple. Buying hardware specs is a fool’s folly. I don’t compare hardware. Ads and marketing are totally nonsense and not worth even a slight glance. The ONLY thing that matters is what open source projects exist and what hardware do they support well. This is how I shop. Open Source or F.O.

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    24 days ago

    I used to use Lineage OS before without gapps and it worked flawlessly although it was few years ago. Give it a try.

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      24 days ago

      If you liked LineageOS without gapps, than I highly recommend DivestOS. It is a soft-fork of LineageOS with significant security hardening and removal of proprietary binary blobs.

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        24 days ago

        Ive been meaning to flash this onto my fairphone but the websites instructions are a bit confusing (I’ve installed calyx, eos and graphene on other phones)

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            That’s great if not having to use any proprietary apps depending on google services, including push notifications, since part of divestos unsupported stuff includes:

            Google Apps or microG or Sandboxed Play Services are NOT supported.

            Which is fine, if you don’t need to use such apps. An alternative to /e/os, which now a days is actually murenaOS, is lineageOS for micro G, which does sort of monthly releases based on whatever is available as nightly releases on lineageOS. It does provide you with microG and also with F-Droid with privileged extensions installed and already set for you. This might be more suitable than divestos if in need for some such apps.

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              23 days ago

              MicroG actually works on DivestOS. It is “unsupported”, as-in the Dev doesnt want to put any significant time into development for Gapps support.

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                22 days ago

                True, but not entirely, signature spoofing needs OS support, and LOS and divestOS don’t, whereas murenaOS (/e/OS) and lineageOS for microG do. Other than that microG’s own f-droid repo makes it easy to keep microG’s component up to date.

                That’s why I mentioned it would be nice to upstream divestOS bootloader lock/unlock at will solution, so that not just LOS, but derivative ROMs can inherit that solution. As some people don’t like the tight integration from murena (/e/) with all of its rebranding, LOS for microG is a very appealing option, if wanting full microG’s support. Actually LOS for microG was there quite before /e/ was created.

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                  22 days ago

                  As I said, DivestOS supports microg. It signature spoofs the latest microg release, enabled with a toggle in the settings.

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    24 days ago

    You can’t really expect to have any privacy if you’re using any online service anymore, so I just stopped trying. Blasting a Samsung phone with all the features enabled and not thinking of going back really.