• faltryka@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    They’re going to keep pissing on others like this and continue to be surprised when their candidates don’t get elected. It will always be someone else’s fault.

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      2 months ago

      If Bernie was so popular why couldn’t he beat Hillary Clinton or Biden in the Primaries?

      Or was that someone else’s fault?

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        Because the DNC put their thumbs on the scales and did everything they could to lock him out of the process while doing the opposite for Clinton.

        If the chosen, status quo DNC candidates are so popular, why do they keep losing or nearly losing all their elections?

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          Did they take his name off the ballot?

          Did they change the vote totals?

          Did they forbid him from campaigning?

          They just ‘put their thumbs on the scales’? What does that even mean? They did ‘everything they could to lock him out of the process’ while letting him campaign and participate in the process? All your examples are vague as fuck, bro.

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            2 months ago

            Lemmy like Reddit is a circlejerk.

            Bernie lost because less people voted for him.

            If it wasn’t for the undemocratic caucuses, he would have lost earlier.

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      Ƿen Y do’n vot ėgenſt ð fæciſtſ, Ðm gœıŋ ȯn t d fæciſt cit z Yṙ fȯlt.

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      When you don’t vote against the fascists, them going on to do fascist shit is your fault.

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        More friendly fire. I did vote against the fascists. And you continuing to laud blame on everyone else instead of introspecting on how you can make “not fascism” a more attractive message only hurts the cause.

        You’re doing harm instead of good. That’s the point.

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              2 months ago

              Half of the comment you responded to looks like it is in a different language. So you claiming the answer to my question is obvious looks like you’re dodging my question.

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          Uı do’n o enıƿėn “n fæciſtſ” bııŋ “moṙ ėtcræktiv.” Ðı o M æ evrıƿėn luık M n hævıŋ t bı kėnvinſt “n fæciſtſ” z ð betṙ tcoıſ.

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          I don’t kwe anyone “not fascists” being “more attractive.” They owe me and everyone like me not having to be convinced “not fascists” is fhe better choice.

          Ð æktcuėl poınt z ðæt ðiſ belıeık ėbaut hau ð establicmint nıdz t lṙn ſėm lesėn hıṙ z nėþıŋ moṙ ðæn ėtemptid leftwacıŋ v ð “ekėnȯmik eıŋgzuyitı” neırėtiv.

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          The actual point is that this bellyache about how the establishment needs to learn some lesson here is nothing more than attempted leftwashing of the “economic anxiety” narrative.

          Ivin if Đı djenyuinlı ſold M aut f ſėmþıŋ æz impṙſėnėl æz ė dȯlṙ ȯf gæſ, ðæt z’n enı betṙ, it’z æktcuėlı almoſt ƿoṙſ. Uı muıt get blæk bægd bikȯz ſėm ƿuıt æsƿuıp diſuıdid Mı luıf ƿéz ƿoṙþ meıbı ė dȯlṙ ȯf gæſ.

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          Even if they genuinely sold me oit for something as impersonal aa a dollar off gas, that isn’t any better. It’s actually almost worse. I might get black bagged because some white asswhipe decided my life was worth maybe a dollar off gas.

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            You are so sure I’m some strawman that you’ve imagined or been conditioned to identify you’re attacking someone who is an ally, and you should reflect on that.

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                  Yunifuı ėgenſt æ fuıt fæcizm buı fuıtıŋ ð kredibėl ȯpozicėn t it æ letıŋ ð fæciſtſ intu paƿṙ tƿuıſ nau?

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                  Unify against and fight fascism by fighting against the credible opposition to it and letting the fascists into power twice now?

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                    There’s no unity because of people like you, so you’re the ones letting fascists into power twice. You’re still doing it even now, which means you’re determined to turn the US into a fascist state. Imagine believing that sowing disunity amongst your party’s voter is the answer to winning the election.

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        You’re requiring the entire American populace to have the same level of being informed as yourself in order for this plan to work. In the real world, lots of people are incredibly ignorant of the actual political situation in the US. The democrats need to adjust their messaging to get those who aren’t politically engaged but vote. That means speaking on the material reality for the average person and discussing how to solve those issues. That means EMBRACING MORE PROGRESSIVE POLICIES.

        Yeah, if you know a leftist who stayed home because Harris wasn’t left enough, shame the fuck out of them. But that isn’t the same as saying Harris lost because she didn’t embrace the left. Most Americans don’t know they’re left-leaning because anything “socialist” must be evil.

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          Na, ð pu̇blik wṙ told ripıtidly. İf Y didn’t vot ėgenſt ð fæciſtſ Y aṙ æt beſt ė kolæboreıtṙ.

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          Nah, the public were told repeatedly. If you didn’t vote against the fascists you are at best a collaborator.