The Best Thing About Amazon Was Never Going to Last | If shopping on the site feels different now, that’s because it is::If shopping on the site feels different now, that’s because it is.

  • @[email protected]
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    429 months ago

    There was a whitepaper that Amazon published like…5-10 years into their market dominance where they shared how they wanted to get into drone-based delivery because the vast majority of items purchased on Amazon were very light-weight items.

    This tracks with me. The problem that Amazon solved (at least for me) was the ability to find small items that are near impossible to find in a Walmart or other superstore. For example, say you are looking for some wax for your car. You go to Walmart and you see a wall of products. Now did they put the wax in the right place or did they put it with the cleaning stuff? You spend 20-30 minutes looking for this one item that you’re not going to buy again for maybe a few years when you can go on amazon, find it, buy it, and have it at your door in two days.

    Walmart and other stores have gotten better with their apps but they need to do what Home Depot/Lowes have done and do aisle AND bay, and, ideally, where on the shelf to find it. They already have this information but they don’t want you you to exactly know where it is because Walmart wants you to browse.

    • Bobby Turkalino
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      159 months ago

      Same, except with soldering materials and circuit components since there’s no more Radio Shack or anything. I don’t solder super often, just to fix things in my hobby, so ordering from someone like McMaster Carr doesn’t really make sense. Amazon has been super clutch in this case

      • @[email protected]
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        29 months ago

        I have seen some simple solder equipment and supplies at Home Depot and Lowe’s in the last year, usually with the other electrical wiring and equipment. Of course, you still have to go out to a store and hope that they have something, because I have found both to have unreliable in stock information, but it can’t hurt if you need something same day.

        • Bobby Turkalino
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          29 months ago

          I was more talking about soldering for microelectronics, not automobiles and homes

  • Flying Squid
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    389 months ago

    There is a way to avoid buying utter shit on Amazon most of the time, but it’s annoying- type in the full product name including the manufacturer. Like instead of “noise-cancelling earbuds,” you have to type in “Skullcandy sesh ANC” (highly recommended and inexpensive wireless earbuds, by the way). Then the result is at least near the top of the list. Of course, this requires you to know what you want before you go there, which can sometimes, due to researching it, require going to some other website to make the same purchase anyway.

    I basically don’t do non-specific searches Amazon at this point unless I want it to be cheap and I honestly don’t care if it sucks. If I buy a male-to-male cable converter and it craps out after a month… well, it was only $1.

    • @[email protected]
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      319 months ago

      The problem with this is that if a non-manufacturer sells the “same” product, and they both use the same warehouse, Amazon keeps both versions of the product in the same bin, and there’s no way to guarantee whether you’re getting the real product or the knockoff.

      If you buy post-it notes from the official post-it’s Amazon store, they’re not necessarily giving you post-its from the official post-its stock. You could be getting post-its from seller A6Zodiyn which were never stored properly and several years old so the sticky note glue doesn’t hold anymore. But both sellers were selling post-its in the same packaging, so they’re in the same box in the warehouse and what the pickers grab is random.

      But also the completely fake post-its are in that box too, and they don’t stick as well plus their color is off, and there are fewer sheets per pad. But because the outer packaging is the same, same same warehouse box.

      • @[email protected]
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        179 months ago

        This has been a big problem in beauty products particularly, I know. People having sudden reactions to a cream they’ve used for years, because it’s actually a counterfeit.

      • Flying Squid
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        39 months ago

        I personally haven’t had that issue so far, so I can’t speak for that.

        • @[email protected]
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          I have. I won’t buy ssds or sd cards from Amazon anymore for this exact reason. I got counterfeits twice. Once with an sd card and once with an ssd. Now I buy from B&H for stuff like that so I know I’m getting what I ordered.

          I was able to return both counterfeits to Amazon so I didn’t lose any money, but I don’t want the hassle of having to test and verify shit I buy to make sure it’s what it’s supposed to be.

          Edit: I try to avoid Amazon entirely, but sometimes it’s the only option.

      • @[email protected]
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        09 months ago

        That’s not the issue. If the wrong product was sent to you, you just make a refund and reorder.

    • @[email protected]
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      149 months ago

      This is it.

      Nonspecific searches will show you the same three keyboards branded differently because they’re dropshipped by some rando, and rated highly from purchased reviews.

      Always look up what you want through a actual review site (not like bestvacuumstobuy2023 .com - which are also owned by dropshipper) and then shop around on Amazon and around the rest of the internet.

    • @[email protected]
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      159 months ago

      Same. It’s changed like 10 years ago I would say. It was always a safer bet than eBay, but it’s sort of swung back. I use eBay more now .

    • @[email protected]
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      99 months ago

      What are the alternatives you’re using?

      I cancelled prime years ago but still struggle to find a decent replacement.

      I mean, books alone are tough with AMZ often being 30% cheaper than most online retailers. In that case, I sometimes go to eBay to get a used book (if it’s not a new release).

      This past week though, I bought some athletic wear, waterproofing wax, a heat gun, and picture frames. Without prime, everything was delivered within three days. For free.

      • @[email protected]
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        9 months ago

        I use Amazon for research and then purchase the product for about $5-$10 more on other websites, ideally the company selling on a Amazon has their own website. I’d rather pay a little more than give a dime to Jeff Bezos.

        • @[email protected]
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          39 months ago

          Gotcha. I was hoping there were better market places but this works too. I’ve found sometimes that items are less on a seller’s site if it’s not something too generic. Shopping can add up though if you don’t hit their minimum.

  • @[email protected]
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    129 months ago

    Amazon at it’s core is a hyper-localized logistics company. Their entire product is logistics, the bulk of their revenue comes from that, and that’s how the company got started. This is just the next evolution of that as they see it, and it’s fucking gross. Other companies take their lead so as not to attract negative attention when they emulate this crappy behavior, so expect much more of this in odd places you wouldn’t expect.

  • @[email protected]
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    39 months ago

    I don’t get it

    I worked in retail on and off for 7 years and every store charged markup. Some products were marked up 70-80%. One place I worked was Best Buy. I regularly sold USB cables where the store cost was $2 for $32.

    Amazon fees are essentially their markup. It’s impossible to run a store without it

    • @[email protected]
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      119 months ago

      The difference is who pays the markup. Amazon charges that to the seller, and passes that “discount” to the buyer effectively locking in buyers because nobody else can afford to compete

      • @[email protected]
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        29 months ago

        Yeah. And that’s fine.

        Cost is a concept in retail that gets manipulated a lot. In my previous example there is no way the actual “cost” of the USB cable was $2. When you factor in employees, rent, bills, logistics, customer service, etc etc the cable was likely more like $5. Best Buy made have paid $2 for that cable, but the actual cost to sell it, taken as a whole, was more like $5.

        That other $3 is essentially what Amazon is making. If you sell on Amazon they build and maintain the website, logistics, warehousing, etc etc. You can create an online store and have exactly 0 employees or logistical infrastructure. Amazon has spent literally billions and billions of dollars building all of that.

        • @[email protected]
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          19 months ago

          Amazon is the mall Best Buy is paying rent too. It’s not a store itself but overhead the store pays.

          To use your example if the cost of the cables is $2 and the selling price is $20, Amazon’s rent is $10 of that. Leaving $8 as Best Buy’s profit margin.

          • @[email protected]
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            9 months ago

            Exactly. Amazon is essentially running a huge chunk of a retail business for their customers, the people buying and selling products. The reason you pay these fees is so you don’t need to run a website, build and maintain warehouses, pay staff like HR, etc etc

    • @[email protected]
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      39 months ago

      This is why the mall or bazaar analogy make more sense. Kind of.

      When you buy things from Amazon which Amazon purchased from a wholesaler, this is the same as going to a retail store. (In recent years, Amazon has become their own wholesaler / manufacturer.)

      But what has become more common is the “retail stores” are buying from wholesalers and then listing items on Amazon.

      So, if you’re selling pet goods and you pay $2 for a bone wholesale that you’d typically resell for $5, Amazon is cutting into your profit and making it more difficult for you to market your product among competitors.

      Although, there’s been a couple times where I’ve gone to a seller’s website and found the same product they had on Amazon for less money. So I wonder if sellers aren’t marking up products that are less competitive to account for Amazon’s cut.