This is ridiclous

  • BmeBenji@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    I’m not really trying to come to Apple’s defense here as they don’t need it, but everyone reacting as though this is as bad as or worse than the mouse charging port seems to be ignoring the fact that most computers nowadays don’t need to be manually turned off or on with any level of frequency. People will push this button like once or twice a month I imagine. I don’t see why that’s the end of the world.

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      4 months ago

      What the hell are you talking about? I push the power button every single day on my PC. I’m aware that wake on LAN is a thing, but your average computer user doesn’t utilize that feature. And only a psychopath who doesn’t care about their power bill nor the environment would leave their PC running 24/7.

      Edit: Thanks for the insight. You were right, I was wrong. My bad.

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        4 months ago

        Thats the thing i have never turned off a mac in my entire life… always sleep and wake

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        4 months ago

        I should have considered that I was posting this comment to Lemmy before posting it.

        Maybe you push the dedicated power button on your computer’s case everyday but I’m very confident most users of any computer do not. And in that regard I’m including all computers - wearable, handheld, and laptops. We’re well past the age where most users feel the need to fully shutdown and boot their computers everyday, AND there are plenty of software buttons and even some physical keyboard buttons for shutting down a computer so I mean it when I say that I think most computer case’s power buttons go untouched for definitely days and possibly weeks at a time.

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        4 months ago

        You can wake a Mac by clicking the mouse or hitting literally any of the hundred+ buttons on the keyboard.

        …also this power button is dumb.

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        4 months ago

        The average user uses sleep mode and wakes from sleep. Sleep mode should be under 10w, or around $1/mo.

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        4 months ago

        Why need Wake on LAN when basically any USB input device can take your computer out of sleep?

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            4 months ago

            Here you were saying the average user isn’t going to use Wake on LAN, but you expect them to disable USB devices waking their computer?

            I have my USB’s disabled as well, but I was talking averages here.

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              4 months ago

              but you expect them to disable USB devices waking their computer?

              He expects people to turn off their computer when they are done with it, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to expect. Apple is deliberately making it harder to use this computer in a way many people use their computer.

          • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            4 months ago

            This mac mini on uses less power than your desktop in sleep.

            Your desktop also doesn’t use 0 watts of power when off. If you have a gaming computer with a full power supply it’s probably using a couple watts completely off. Vs an M1 Mac mini that uses about 1 or less watts in sleep.

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      4 months ago

      I think it’s more about design. Apple is a company that has set a high standard for design and premium looking/feeling products. I understand that it still works, but I also think it’s not the best design. It’s just not the expectation Apple has set as a brand. Same goes for the mouse that charges on the bottom.

      On one hand, I’m happy that Apple is breaking away from some of their earlier values (e.g. recently allowing for more iOS customization) but I do appreciate how well designed their products tend to be. I hope they don’t get sloppy with future products. So yeah, it’s just a silly power button, but it just seems out of character for their brand.