• catloaf@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    oh thank god, you have no idea how long I’ve been waiting to know who Barbara Bush is endorsing

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      I don’t think you’re the target audience of Barbara Bush or People magazine

      For a younger, moderately conservative woman who sees Trump for who he is, this sort of endorsement can give them cover to vote for a Democrat

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        I don’t think anyone on Lemmy is the target audience.

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    All hands on deck. All who denounce nazis are on the team. Those who refuse their help are not.

    We’ll see where we’re at after you all vote so that kamala wins.

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      I’m at least one anti Trump vote in Florida…(Harris and none of the federalist judges, ) I’m trying to turn the tide

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      all hands on deck for a pro-fracking genocider ?

      vote 3rd party specially if you are in deep blue or a deep red state. both trump and harris are scamming psychopath. don’t let them get away with murdering thousands of children.

      this election must depict that we had enough of bullshit.

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        I expect if her positions were completely reversed, you’d complain about those too.

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          an absurd comment to prove how indefensible this farce is.

          she hasn’t even given a hint of reversing her position, only demeaned it with moronic statements like this

          you should introspect your own beliefs system rather than giving baseless take on others.

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            This US election is not about who wins, but who doesn’t win. Project 2025 is an attack on democracy and fair elections as a whole. Want to argue about actual political issues? Vote blue. Want to fight for fundamental rights the next 4 years? Vote red, 3rd party or just don’t vote.

            Using a 3rd party vote to protest the system is saying you’re choosing between equal evils. Saying a convinced fellon, insurrectionist and known fascist is an equal evil as a person with actual reasonability and literally zero negative qualifications just proves you have the moral compass of a sand dune.

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              Project 2025 will be implemented regardless of who is president fyi. The court system is captured by fascists and the executive branch can’t stop it. Vote for Kamala if it makes you feel good tho

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              we don’t have a democracy. majority of Americans and almost entirety of dnc voters are against genocide in gaza and fracking. yet harris has been very much in support. forget support she has been actively participating for a year and removing anti-israel speakers from her rallies.

              after obama, we became “one party two candidates” system where they run gaslighting campaign every four years and do what lobbyists tell them to do.

              and wtf on bringing moral compass on not wanting to vote for a genocider who has only spit on poor people in her entire public service. question her and the dnc for choosing corruption and dead children over their voters and fight against facism. they are the one who don’t care about getting trump elected because their gravy train will keep running. infact pelosi will have to pay lower taxes on all that insider trading she has been doing for decades.

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                You want to call something a farce? Thinking the US has more than two parties is a farce. We can hate on it all we want but the fact is that your 3rd party vote will only help the GOP.

                Political differences is how elections should be fought, this one is about much more than that.

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                  3rd party is not farce. if your self-respect allows you to vote for them then good for you. mine doesn’t.

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          this 2016 excuse that only drove people away from dnc, so i am ok with it. the gall to bring that up when they used every party resource and media to sabotage bernie.

          also russia would be very happy with dnc given they have

          • diverted majority of aid to israel so that they can flatten every home in gaza and kill hundreds of civilians everyday
          • polarized the world against us
          • ensured for next few decades that we will be spit on every time we use words like warcrime or human rights in a sentence.

          if it was under trump, only he would have been blamed, but thanks to biden now the entire nation is complicit.

          and lemmy.ml was the top result in kagi but this bigotry makes no sense anyway.

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    Before people bash her because of her dad:

    She is doing this

    She spoke out as pro-gay marriage

    She also headlined a Planned Parenthood fundraiser in Texas.

    She seems to keep her politics quiet, however these public displays land her on the right side of things. I don’t know her and don’t care one way or the other what side she’s on, I just want to be sure she’s getting a fair assessment without her dad’s shadow hanging over her.

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      I agree, makes no sense to hold someone accountable for other people’s views and actions, if she’s willing to stand up for her own views that’s all it takes.

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        I’d argue that what she’s doing is even more admirable, simply because it’s super fucking easy to fall into the “my parents voted this way so I do too” mindset. Pretty much every small town in America is full of people who were steeped in hate while growing up, have never known anything else, and fully plan on continuing the family tradition when they have kids of their own. It would be easy for her to just keep her head down and coast along on her father’s coattails. But she has actively refused to do so.

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    Who is this for? They’re acting like getting endorsements from the families of Bush and Cheney is like getting an endorsement from Ronald Regan, but Bush and Cheney were not popular at the end of their administration; they started two interminable wars and ended with the largest recession in recent history. Trump cut his teeth in 2016 by trashing George Bush and curb-stomping his brother in the primary. Conservatives who are still open to Trump probably aren’t huge fans of the Bush family! All this is doing is demoralizing the progressive base and showing conservatives that the kind of Republicans they rejected in 2016 support Harris.

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    Fucking cowards are waiting until enough votes are cast in early voting.

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      Why are you hating on her? Cause you don’t like her dad? That’s fucked up. Stop sowing Division within the left with this “nobody is good enough for my side” bullshit

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        “Her dad” is a fucking war criminal who has been whitewashed into goofy, doofy grandpa with time, but who was the driver of a lot of SERIOUS damage inflicted on the US and the broader world. So a bit to start, sure, there’s a layer of gratitude for the action in this desperate moment, but overall fuck her and “her dad” ( like he’s just since dude, okay tool - cool story) Plain truth is I haven’t seen her ever directly acknowledge the fact that her father is trash and that’s how history should always remember him - short of that, she’s lacking a good start to any kind of meaningful apology. Also their family money, as most family money does, has some very fucked up roots.

        To restate a bit for context, announcing just a week or two out gives them potential plausible deniability after the fact, less prominence in crowded news cycles now and less repeated points of exposure as a potential surrogate at events or in press. Basically, after the fact if trump wins, they can say it was an isolated, momentary lapse instead of deep commit and then smooth further with typical, “Realize I just felt threatened/pressured by those woke marxists CRTs and f da libz, trump 4 liffffz!” (If you need an example, go see every January 6 traitor crying in court, saying they should not have followed trump’s bullshit and their actions we’re reprehensible prior to sentencing… then fast forward to when they are released and they are at a Halloween party the next week dressed as Paul Pelosi with a hammer in their skull, showing off their new “stop the steal” tattoo and doing Lee Greenwood karaoke while standing in front of a “make America swastika again” flag)

        And all will fairly easily be forgiven on that side, as they always need warm bodies regardless of any morality or integrity. And on the otherside if Harris wins, they get to sleep at night saying “I helped” without really having done or risked anything in response to a prior life of being actively driving or at leeway complicity with the root cause of the problem.

        Two things can be true at once, she can still owe a lifetime of penance for her/her family’s atrocious past actions (active or passive participation) AND they can start operating on the side of good for the rest of their lives to hopefully, eventually do more good than harm.

        So respectfully, fuck you and your revisionist history, “no time to convict Nixon, the nation needs to heal” apologist bullshit.

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          I’m sure your dad is a piece of shit too but I don’t know why I would hold that personally against you, that’s just insane.