• Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “Why care about other countries instead of focusing on our own” is often a manipulative way to say “let’s allow xenophobia and sacrifice other nationalities to fuel our own”.

    And I’m sorry, but the guy in the last picture probably has it much easier than people going through the war in Ukraine.

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      Lol fuck that. Nobody in a bad spot wants to hear that some underage minority prostitutes in some bigoted religious third world country have it worse. There is always someone who has it worse, in fact this is one of the most common deflections when the marginalized ask for (literal) change.

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      6 months ago

      The USA shouldn’t be funding wars abroad when it’s own people are starving and homeless. This is not xenophobia. That is common sense. The USA shouldn’t be funding wars period, actually.

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          Ukraine has a right wing government that dissolved all the other parties and which has Nazis platoons. That is fascism. The USA is funding fascism in Ukraine while Russia is trying to denazify it.

          There was also a U.S. funded genocide happening in Dombass and Crimea that the Russians stopped. The USA doesn’t help against oppression. The USA exports oppression.

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            It has a democratically elected government and it banned a small minority of parties that were collaborating with an invading military, as its pre-existing constitution allowed for.

            Russia isn’t de-Nazifying shit. Russia is grabbing up valuable land and creating a vassal state. The “de-Nazifying” line is blatant marketing to sell its imperialism.

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              It is a puppet government placed after the CIA backed coup of the democratically elected president. Banning all 11 opposition parties is literally what fascists do.

              The Ukrainian units literally have swasticas and say Nazi rethoric and volunteers from other countries constantly complain of the virulent racism they experience.

              Nazis are an existential threat to the Russian state as they have demonstrated by allying with NATO and causing a coup to the former elected president. That is why Russia has to denazi Ukraine.

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                Even if we accept that Euromaidan was a CIA-backed coup, which I do not, the Zelenskyy government was not elected immediately after that. A different government was, and Zelenskyy beat them at the next election

                Banning all 11 opposition parties is literally what fascists do.

                Banning parties for literal wartime treason is not fascism. You’re doing the equivalent of “fascists drink water, therefore drinking water is fascist”. They also were not even slightly close to “all opposition parties”.

                Yes, there are fascists in Ukraine. I bet they’d be a lot fucking easier to deal with if the Russian military wasn’t invading. If those fascists want to get themselves killed fighting imperialists then that’s fine by me. Considering one of Russia’s best forces has been Wagner - where did that name come from I fucking wonder - then sometimes they’re literally just killing each other. I am not about to throw the other forty million Ukrainians under the bus because of them, just as I would not advocate for America and China to beat the shit out of Russia over the existence of Wagner.

                Nazis are an existential threat to the Russian state as they have demonstrated by allying with NATO and causing a coup to the former elected president. That is why Russia has to denazi Ukraine.

                Literally the American government talking about terrorism. You are doing the same thing. A few thousand Ukrainian shitheads are not able to destroy Russia.