YouTube Premium users across the globe are facing significant price hikes as Google increases subscription costs in over a dozen countries. This follows earlier price jumps in various regions, including the United States last summer. The latest increases vary by region, with some countries experiencing hikes between 30% to 50%. For instance, in Ireland, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Italy, the Family plan will rise from €18 to €26 starting November, while the individual plan will increase by €2 to €14.
Countries affected by these changes include Ireland, Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, UAE, Switzerland, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Colombia, Thailand, Singapore, Norway, Sweden, Czech Republic, and Denmark. Although most Reddit reports are from European users, the price hikes also impact the Middle East, Colombia, Singapore, Thailand, and Indonesia. YouTube had already raised its subscription prices in India by 15–20% in late August.
It is morally correct to adblock youtube.
E: I can’t hear any of these counterpoints over the sweet ad-free youtube I’m getting for free.
Or just not watch.
Not watching has a much better moral argument.
Yup. But people would rather just carp on about Revanced and Insidious or whatever, as if everyone has the time to and the inclination to set that up.
Meanwhile, everyone else will piss and moan for a month, then pay up and keep watching.
If you have the time to watch YouTube enough that you’re considering premium you have enough time to set up these systems. The time it saves you makes back the setup time very quickly for someone watching even a moderate amount of YouTube.
If you have time to relax and watch your favourite creators, you have time to set up arcane systems to avoid seeing ads!
No. YouTube is relaxing time, not doing work time.
I can concede Insidious especially with the recent news but Revanced is so easy and quick to set up, calling it arcane is laughable. It’s done in under 5 minutes.
What the hell are you talking about? I download an apk, I install it, I’m done. How many ads will you sit through before you’ve wasted the whole minute it would’ve taken to do?
You say that as if it’s obvious to everyone what an APK is.
It’s an installer for an app on android. Android has been around for half of my lifetime at this point. Not know that is like not knowing what an exe is on a PC.
First of all, you said time or inclination, the latter is caused by the ads, the former wasn’t really an issue as I’ve already said. Now you don’t know what APKs are? YouTube won’t stop with the ads. You either find an alternative, whether it’s Newpipe or just abandoning YouTube entirely, or you put up with them and stop bitching.
You can’t sit in the middle throwing your own shit at one side because “people will whine and then use it anyway” and then also at the other side because “it’s too hard to install a different app and don’t know what APKs are!”
Let’s make it even easier then. I downloaded Firefox Focus from the App Store (also available in the play store)
Boom done. Ads blocked on YouTube. Even the most tech illiterate people can install an app from the store.
You can install ad blockers from within the browser, why are people doing it the hard way?
an adblocker is much quicker and easier to set up
Doesn’t work on a Chromecast though.
Easier said than done when you talk about the global video sharing platform that is used everywhere by everyone…
It’s like telling someone to just ditch their smartphone… not practically doable. Blocking ads is morally correct when you are forced to use it.
I highly doubt anyone is “forced” to use YouTube, unless you work for a YT channel or something. There are plenty of alternatives, and while they don’t have the same content, they have other enjoyable content.
I’ve moved about half of my watching to Nebula, and almost a quarter to Odysee. There are still some channels I really enjoy on YouTube, but I could totally stop watching those.
No one is forced to use youtube in the same sense no one is forced to use a smartphone.
In the real world you’ll eventually have to use those things to participate in society, just by the sheer reach those things have in our daily lives.
Just look back into any time a friend or family shared a link, or it was embedded in an article, or a company made an announcement only in youtube, or if you’re in school and you were asked to view some lesson, or those college lectures that get uploaded to youtube.
I can get more examples, the thing is you’ll need to click a youtube link at some point. Is it ok for us to deal with an enshittified platform? should we act like a luddite because we don’t agree with the TOS? is this fair for us?
My current usage of youtube doesn’t involve following creators, for that I use odysee/twitch. But the point remains, its morally correct to block ads, the platform is unfairly dominant.
i dont like being addicted to their platforms and limit my time using it.
however, the idea of being a luddite and isolating myself from the useful things in them just because their current owners are greedy capitalists sounds even worse.
Use Revanced and forever be free
Wouldnt that just cause them to increase prices more? Since now someone else has to pay for the bandwith you use?
Thus what you are doing is using your technological know how to offload your costs onto less technical users who can’t adblock.
The morally correct thing to do is to stop watching youtube and/pr go to a paid platform that’s an alternative, like floatplane or nebula and support the creators there, isn’t it? But let’s be honest, we all know you just want adfree youtube videos for free.
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Level set: ads suck
Least they can do is to serve adfree videos
Now, corporations are greedy right?
Genuine question: What does Greedy Google do if we all install adblock on all our neighbors’ computers tonight?
I’m ok with all of that. It furthers my goal of hitting the platform back in response to their predatory marketing practices and de facto monopoly. Also, I do support creators outside of youtube. In short, I don’t feel bad about any of this.
That might be their response, yes. But they also have some other options:
- improve the service to be worth the cost
- reduce the cost to increase Premium subs - I have a price in mind, and they’re way above it
- add an a la carte alternative to Premium (i.e. pay per video or something)
- cut expenses, such as by reducing the amount of useless videos that are uploaded (i.e. small charge to upload videos, recur every year; allow some amount for free)
But no, raising prices is the easier “solution.” I’m willing to pay (I pay for Nebula, after all), I’m just not willing to pay what they’re asking for the service as-is.
Okay, so if you are not willing to pay that’s entirely reasonable, you can then not use the service or use it with ads.
Dont get me wrong, I do have pirated movies and shows, it has reasons like scrubs they changed the music, community they took down an episode for no reason, but that shit doesn’t cost anyone anything I dont use extra bandwith or anything
There’s a third option: use the service with an ad blocker. The way I see it, that’s not piracy, it’s a TOS violation, and they’re free to block me from their site. But as long as I’m not bypassing copyright protections or something, it’s not piracy. I think using something like Invidious or other FEs could constitute piracy, but just using their website w/ an ad-blocker isn’t.
I’m willing to pay (again, I pay for Nebula), but I’m not willing to pay the price they’re asking for.
- Firefox + uBO
- NewPipe/LibrePipe/GrayJay
- FreeTube
They all are free, no subscription required
And sorry Apple users, I don’t know what option you have cuz I don’t use Apple.
As an iPhone user I like to use YtLitePlus, it’s pretty much the same user experience as using revanced on android, maybe even a bit better. I’d like to have an alternative client such as NewPipe but hey, we can’t have everything.
iOS/iPadOS: Safari + AdGuard (+ Vinegar (optional))
macOS: Safari + AdGuard or Firefox + uBO or FreeTube
reminder that firefox + ubo works on android too.
I use to use tubular, but it stopped working and I’m not computer savy enough to fix it. Can anyone offer some assistance please? It gets the infinite loading icon and then gives me an error
Remember: Everything premium offers used to be included for free
Except youtube music, I guess
YouTube Music Revanced or Innertune (on fdroid)
Get the RiMusic app. YouTube music without ads.
SpMp is the best
What does YouTube music have that regular YouTube doesn’t? I have a ton of playlists on YouTube for music. Everything is on there.
Better quality and nicely sorted discographies
The awesome algorithm for recommendations on YouTube was turned off to prevent fake news bubbles. This means that when you listen to a song and want YouTube to create a Playlist with similar artists for you, this doesn’t work anymore. But this function does still work with YouTube music.
Interesting, thanks.
Funny, I still pay them my same flat fee of nada
The nice thing about hiking your prices by 50% is that unless a whole third of your users quit, you haven’t lost anything.
You don’t lose anything for the moment, but it might come back to bite you later regardless. Because Youtube needs to grow until the end of times but can’t, it will end ugly one way or another. It’s more of a symptom of a bigger problem than an isolated, ‘smart’ business decision.
Unless the backlash is a huge percentage of users immediately stop using the service, they won’t care. They already calculated how many users they’d lose and how much more profit they get to bring in off of those who decide to stay.
Use NewPipe if you’re on Android.
You’re welcome.
Just did cause of ur comment actually, thank you so much!
Any alternatives for iOS?
Started using YTLitePlus around a month ago, can recommend
Using youtube with Brave Browser and AdGuard blocks youtube ads on iOS.
I really like Grayjay, also on Android. The nice thing is it also supports other sources, so you can watch Odysee, Rumble, Nebula, Peertube and others on it. If the same video is on multiple platforms, it recognizes that and only shows one.
Been paying for years now, got a 50% price hike. Canceled on the spot. I like the creators I follow, but recommendations have sucked for me for several months now anyway.
Any advice for streaming ad free on Chromecast or Samsung tv?
smarttube on tv
Revanced
Does that work for YouTube on smart TV?
The person I was replying to was mentioning a Chromecast so just get something to cast your cellphone to your TV and you’re all set
Oh I have revanced but it never works when I cast to my smart tv
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Unfortunately not
I’m in the same boat as you and never found anything for Samsung tizen os. Smarttube is android based only and anything streamed to a Chromecast still has ads.
Edit: okay I thought let’s search one’s more. And there is tizentube did not try it yet but seems promising
This is just what I was hoping for. Thank you!
I’ve been paying for YouTube premium and have been watching a ton of YouTube for years. But I’ve been finding myself watching less and less YouTube lately and this might be the push to finally cancel and back away some from the platform.
It’s so odd that a platform that relies so much on user content charges as much as or more than network streaming services. The market hold is leaking into it (and out).
relies so much on user content
Does it? I mean, it hosts user content but it doesn’t really monetize that. YouTube relies on creators, and it pays them.
Creators are users. I think the OP is saying they rely more on smaller shops than large media orgs, which is opposite from big streaming services. Then again, some YT creators are pretty large.
I feel YT users and creators are separate groups of people.
Tiktok has more overlap.
Can’t wait to see this bubble burst.
Youtube doing what I told every Premium adversary they would logically do after dumping more and more ad space onto the site. And to make Premium look worth the price, they’ll continue to shove more ads in your face just before, you guessed it, doing another price hike. Rinse and repeat. Premium users are strong drivers of this enshittification so I will continue to call them out on it whenever they tell you to join the scam as well. I’ll stick to my ad blockers.
And this is what happens cause the vast mayority of people don’t give a rats ass as long as they can consume
Welcome to the monopoly
Yup. People will whinge, moan, and pay up. Same with Netflix.
Some of them are even in this thread which is nothing new, but shocking to me every time:
I’m slowly using YouTube less and less. The experience is worse because of the ads and Premium costs.
People pay YouTube instead of using an adblocker?
Please tell me a simple, idiot-proof way to block YT ads on all devices incl. Mobiles, Shield etc. that doesn’t require something complex like piHole, works outside the home (family’s phones etc. ), and doesn’t risk blocking stuff it shouldn’t. That’s my trouble. Premium solves all of that, while bringing other small benefits. Maybe there’s a better way.
Easy peasy. Lemon squeezy.
Firefox-ublock (even better on Linux but not required)
Revanced for mobile.
Pihole doesn’t stop youtube ads anyhow.
And Smart Tube Next for Android TV devices.
OP just needs to switch to Linux and set up a pihole and teach his entire family to do the same.
Easy peasy.
Creators get way more money with Premium viewers than ad-based ones, or at least it used to be that way.
I use the PS5 to watch YouTube on the TV, no way around the ads there. But no way in hell I’m paying them!
Thank goodness for mute buttons.
