I know it’s an odd question, but where I live phones get stolen often. My phone doesn’t have the option for an eSim, which is a problem because 90% of the time when a thief steals a phone they take out the SIM card immediately, meaning I wouldn’t be able to remotely lock or wipe my phone.

Should I consider glueing the SIM tray shut? Or are there alternative less permanent measures I can take to keep my device secure?

  • Creddit@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Don’t glue it shut, paint it shut with an acrylic paint or nail polish. Try to stick to the surface with the paint - you could even paint it to cover it/obscure it’s location as well.

    This way, if you ever need to remove it you can delicately dab acetone over it to dissolve the acrylic and it will open once again!

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    1 year ago

    Get a metal case, weld it shut. Connect it to a long chain and a 25kg dumbbell. Guaranteed they won’t rob you of your phone.

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    There isn’t really a point to that. The very first thing thieves do is turn off the phone so you can’t track it. They’ll then usually format your phone and sell it. Best you can do is set up a secure password and not show any info on the lock screen so they at least wouldn’t be able to access your stuff.

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      True, but in my country and in my experience the first thing they do is remove the SIM card so that you can’t track it, if it’s an android which it is in my case.

      I’ve got a secure password and no details on the lock screen but I’d just like to try protect myself even more

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      1 year ago

      That actually worked for me once. Handed over my old Nokia brick phone and kept my Motorola flip lol.

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      Not a bad idea actually. I do have a work phone which I could hand over but if I get frisked they’ll find the personal phone anyways

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    To actually answer your question:
    Super glue would be a decent option. You should only need one drop to secure the tray.

    If you ever need to open the tray again, wet the area with isopropyl alcohol for a few minutes, and it should pop right open without damage. If you get too much resistance, add more alcohol and wait a little longer.

    There is also a 2-part epoxy with similar performance called “Doubkr Bubble” that also dissolves with alcohol, but it’s definitely overkill for a SIM tray.

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      If you can open it, they can open it. There’s not much of a point if it’s something you can undo.

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        It at least provides resistance to the immediate removal of the card. I doubt most thieves are running around with readily available solvents. Could provide enough time to remotely lock or wipe as OP said

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      Amazing, thank you! I think the super glue option will be best. The phone is water resistant as well so I don’t see the isopropyl being an issue to try loosen the super glue.

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    A better option would be to use a good password generally and the built-in lost device functions like Find my iPhone, Google Find my Device or Samsung Find my Mobile.

    If you’re using Android, and want a separate app that can lock down your device outside of the built-in functionality, among a ton of other features:
    I used to use Cerberus years ago for that security before that functionality was really built in. It is a side loaded app that allows remote tracking, lockdown, etc. and functions as a system app. They have a version of the apk that is listed as “System Framework” with a stock Android icon and as well to hide in the app listing. You can have it hide the app and access it via a dialer code as well for added security. When I used it, you could have it take photos to send to your email with location data for incorrect login attempts, send messages to the device to display while lost, etc. www.cerberusapp.com

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    Some phones including Samsung are encrypted by default.

    Don’t keep data on your device you don’t need and use the encryption.

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      1 year ago

      that doesn’t help with sim removal. sim swaps are stuff are a thing and honestly more of a concern than data exfiltration.

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        “meaning I wouldn’t be able to remotely lock or wipe my phone”. The original post indicated data was the issue. If they want to get the sim out and wipe it, they will. Need to solve the problem (data loss).

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      Uhm, I don’t care about the device or the SIM card?.. I care about my data, and I care about remotely wiping the device before they can try access the device if they are even trying to access it in the first place?

      Sure they can turn it off, but if I activate the command to wipe the device the command will execute as soon as the device is powered on.

      This is not the case if they remove the SIM. If they remove the SIM the connect is lost and the device can remain on and be tampered with, with my data still entact.

      I don’t “keep asking for proof” I literally asked in one comment? You seem very angry about people asking questions online, maybe you should do some introspection or something idk

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      This is unfortunately how a lot of online privacy communities feel. Like it’s mostly performative privacy fan service. Often with a weird martyrdom thread running through it, almost as if people are mixing up the ideas of privacy, with simple rebellion against modern technology.

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    If I really had such a concern I’d use a Linux phone, e.g PinePhone or PinePhone Pro, and I would program it so that unless a certain command has been ran, if it boots or stay too long (e.g 1s) without a SIM then it deletes sensitive data.