Green Party candidate Jill Stein is gaining ground among Muslim-American voters in three critical swing states: Michigan, Arizona, and Wisconsin, according to a recent poll by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

Stein leads Vice President and Democrat candidate Kamala Harris in these states, with 40 per cent support in Michigan, 35 per cent in Arizona, and 44 per cent in Wisconsin. This surge in popularity appears tied to Stein’s vocal criticism of US support for Israel during the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

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    The Muslim-Americans that refuse to vote for a genocidal regime specifically targetting Muslims is somehow fascist, and supporting Trump?

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      … Please research the electoral laws of the country you live and vote in!

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      Unfortunately, yes.

      Our system blows. But as it stands, yes, that is correct.

      The two party system should change, but until it does, you either vote for the lesser of two evils or you step back enable the greater of two evils.

      If you vote for stein you’re worse than most magas because deep down, you know better.

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        Gotcha, so you’re the liberal that would rather close their eyes and cover their ears than actually try to regain those votes by pushing Kamala to sanction Israel.

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          I’m no fucken liberal

          We should have cut Israel loose 30 years ago

          Kamala is as center right as she’s ever been, she’s a fucken cop ffs

          You think I wouldn’t rather be voting for somebody even a little left of center, let alone an actual leftist?

          That’s not the world as it stands, no matter how much you whinge about making Kamala be mean to isreal

          I could piss away my vote because Kamala sucks but what does that get anyone? You want change, dig in. We need to win local first

          You think it’s bad for Muslims now? What do you think it looks like if the fucken yahoos running around saying Haitians eat cats win again because a bunch of morons protest voted for stein.

          And seriously, Jill fucken stein of all people

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            I’m no fucken liberal

            Voteblues are liberals, sorry

            We should have cut Israel loose 30 years ago

            Assuming it had to be founded, it should have been destroyed 70-something years ago

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              Ok dude, if you define a liberal as someone that is voting for a dem instead of bending over for the immediate threat of literal fascism… you got me

              As far as Israel’s founding, yeah fine I’m not that old afaic the world fucked up by letting Israel happen but once they’re all there what now?

              I mean, I think religion is stupid but they’re still people, none of them should be subject to genocide and neither side is ever going to stop fighting because religion.

              So my question is how does voting for Jill stein make any of that better?

              What do you think a relationship between Trump 2.0 and Netanyahu looks like? You care about Palestinians and you want to risk a second Trump term?

              Come on dude

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                I mean, I think religion is stupid but they’re still people, none of them should be subject to genocide and neither side is ever going to stop fighting because religion.

                If this is your analysis of why the Israeli State is commiting genocide via settler-colonialism and why Palestinians are fighting against it, legitimately believing religion to be the driving factor, you were never doing any kind of Materialist analysis and thus at minimum reject the core of Marxism.

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                As far as Israel’s founding, yeah fine I’m not that old afaic the world fucked up by letting Israel happen but once they’re all there what now?

                Well, there is (or was) continuous immigration to Israel from various other (almost exclusively white) countries as part of the project of continuous growth to settle new territory. A lot of them can just go back to their home country and a number already have on at least a temporary basis because of the war.

                For the sake of argument we can say there are recent settlers who really cannot go back, and for them the answer is to rehouse them, since obviously no one here wants genocide, that’s just a Zionist myth.

                But it should be the duty of the founders and masters of Israel, those being the US and UK, to rehouse Israelis in their borders. The same should go for other major sponsors of the Zionist project, like Canada, Australia, and of course Germany. All of these countries (especially America) can afford to do so.

                That wouldn’t eliminate the Jewish population, but the goal has never been to eliminate the Jewish population.

                I mean, I think religion is stupid but

                They’re much more of an ethnostate than a theocracy, though they have features of both

                neither side is ever going to stop fighting because religion.

                You are severely misunderstanding the lines of the conflict, but you’re misunderstanding them in exactly the way you were told to by the neoliberal media trying to both sides a conflict that was always, always a settler-colonial state trying to exterminate and replace the indigenous Palestinian population. The Palestinians are not fighting to exterminate Jews, they are fighting to destroy the settler-colony that ousted them from most of their land. There’s no shortage of evidence of Palestinian society being basically pluralist, allowing Christian churches to stand for centuries (until Israel bombed them) and taking care of Jewish graveyards and so on.

                It is not a religious war, it’s a colonialist war.

                What do you think a relationship between Trump 2.0 and Netanyahu looks like? You care about Palestinians and you want to risk a second Trump term?

                I think Biden was already fully supporting Bibi. Trump can’t “fully support him but even more now”.